Channeled Explanations About 'God' and YOUR Eternal Life — Entities of 'The Inner Circle' Through Mark Probert

Written By Mark Russell Bell


illustration by Grok Imagine


  
The Mark Probert (1907-1969) trance channeling case chronology is unique in that he was able to extensively devote his psychic gift for scientific study for many years.  Previous blog articles about Probert document how the mainstream news media and even national government officials bureaucratically suppressed the data being shared by Borderland Scientists Research Associates without realizing how this would negatively impact the future lives of themselves and all people throughout the world. The atheistic and materialistic social consciousness they assume to be beneficial prevents them from learning what they need to know in order to progress intellectually and emotionally.
 
The life work of Mark Probert and National Director of BSRA Meade Layne culminated with the publication of the books The Magic Bag (first published in two parts: Part One in 1949 and Part Two in 1952) and The Coming of the Guardians: An Interpretation of the Flying Saucers as Given from the Other Side of Life (first published in 1954 and later expanded).
 
This blog article presents transcript excerpts about 'God' and cosmological subjects from The Magic Bag and concludes with the text of The Inner Circle 'Professor Alfred Luntz' channeling session transcript published in the June 1957 issue of Search Magazine edited by Ray Palmer.  The entity answered questions concerning the Christian religion.
 
Mark Probert has commented about his trance mediumship: "Some of the people who communicate through me are said to be very eloquent and learned, and I wish I could hear them for myself . . . The talk is mostly philosophical and scientific, and since I never had more than a sixth grade grammar school education, it is quite beyond my own normal knowledge and vocabulary."  An expert stenographer made transcripts of sessions during the early years of the work and then Mark was able to listen to the trance communication with audio tape recordings that were made.
 
The first blog article in the ongoing Channeled Explanations About 'God' suggests for readers to compare the description of the creation of the universe channeled through Andrew Jackson Davis (1826–1910) with a channeling session transcript of 'E Yada di Shi'ite' through trance medium Mark Probert (1907-1969) as quoted in "Channeled Descriptions About the Creation of the Universe, Earth Beings and Soulmates".  This article presents more descriptions pertaining to 'God' / 'The God Force' / 'Universal Consciousness' and universal Laws articulated by the channeled entities of 'The Inner Circle.'
 
There have been more than 30 previous blog articles about this case chronology.  Mark Probert was the chosen medium (or 'channel') for a group of around 16 'controls/communicators' who referred to themselves as being of 'The Inner Circle.'  As with such prominent channelers as Edgar Cayce and Jane Roberts, this case is extensively documented.  Nonetheless, it would seem that a multitude of contemporary people are completely unaware of these cases.
 
Introductory articles for the Mark Probert / 'The Inner Circle" channeling case chronology include "This Is A Journalist's Proof of Mark Probert's Trance Mediumship Channeling", "Mark Probert and The Inner Circle", "'Speaking of Myself' by Mark Probert (from The Magic Bag)", "Bryant and Helen Reeve's Commentary about Mark Probert and the Inner Circle" and "'Paranormal' Occurrences Are Described In These Case Study Book Opening Chapters".
 
Here's an excerpt from the autobiographical article written by Mark Probert entitled "Speaking of Myself":
 

Then one night in 1947, the year they started to dictate the book to me, five of my Teachers suddenly appeared in the living room of my apartment.  That I was "seeing" them clairvoyantly did nothing to lessen my sense of fright, and had they not somehow taken a hold on me mentally I would have bolted out my front door and perhaps without opening it!  Anyway they quieted me down by assuring me that they were some of the members of the Inner Circle and so had no reason to fear them.  Then they said that their only purpose in showing themselves to me was to have me paint portraits of them.

I made pencil sketches of the five and they left, saying they would return as time permitted to have me finish the portraits in oils.  Some of these portraits have been photographed and incorporated in The Magic Bag along with some others that I painted at a later date.
 

Often in transcendental communication discourses, statements may have figurative/metaphorical meanings and in this way avoid conflicting with the incorrect or in some way distorted beliefs and convictions of those experiencing the contact; and even travesty is a type of figurative language.  The 1979 transcript anthology book of Mark Probert channeling sessions Yada Speaks includes the statement: "When I put my experiences into words, I realize that each one of you exist in different environments, reared and conditioned to think in different ways.  So it may be that I will have to think of proper words that can be understood by you, using a simple kind of terminology that everyone can understand."


'Yada' was one of a group of 'controls/communicators' who referred to themselves as "We of the Inner Circle" to have their oratory channeled through Mark Probert.  'The Inner Circle' is one of a variety of metaphors noticeable in channeling case chronologies that correlate with the understanding of each human being having an 'I AM Presence.' The timing of a 'message' stated during a channeling session may also influence how something is being articulated or what other phenomenal manifestations occur at that specific moment in time.
 
Here is the list of the identified 'controls' (entities representing the ascended realm of existence) that manifested through Mark Probert for interims when he was unconscious:
 
    'Arakashi'
    'Thomas Carlyle'
    'Ali Ben Casi'
    'Thomas Edison'
    'Michael Faraday'
    'Lao-Tse'
    'Charles Lingford' / 'Martin Lattimore Lingford'
    'Lo Sun Yat'
    'Professor (Dr.) Alfred Luntz'
    'Rama Kaloha'
    'Ramon Natalli'
    'Dr. Sukuto Nikkioi'
    'Kay Ting'
    'The Maharajah Natcha Tramalaki'
    'Sister Theresa'
    'E Yada Di Shi'ite'
    (also Mark's wife 'Irene Probert' after the end of her Earth life) 
 
Transcript excerpts are featured in the same sequence as read in the 1963 edition of The Magic Bag, followed by the opening passage from the Tomas Carlyle section XII entitled "Man, Know Thyself!" within the 1949 First Printing of Part One.
  


Mark Probert is shown along with seven of his portraits of the men from the ascended realm who spoke through him during channeling sessions; a photograph of Thomas Carlyle is also displayed.
 
 

The Magic Bag Excerpts


Yada di Shi’ite:

The space you now see and seem to feel to be outside yourself was once a black void that stretched out into all, an endless eternity.  There was neither wind nor elements of any kind whatsoever.  All was in utter quiescence, of a kind which no human can even faintly comprehend.  And yet, within that incomprehensible void there was a vast world of life and ceaseless activity that far surpassed in beauty and grandeur anything Earth-people have ever known.  Let me pause here and now to tell you that you people of Earth will know of this world again in the great distant future of time; you will all come home.

This world I speak of is Man’s True Consciousness.  It needed no external light, for it was a light unto itself.  The same goes for sound, and for all things you know of now in your physical world.  If this were not so, where then do you think all that you now have and love could have come from?  We do not ask this question — we state it.  All was Consciousness, but naught was suffering with the illusion of an outward consciousness.  To give you a comparison: think of your nightly dream world.  This was and is the Etheric World; or, if you are of the Christian orthodox belief, you may say it was the God Mind we were existing in.  Words, however, are quite useless to describe it.

When we use the term "dream" we do so for the sake of the beginner or neophyte.  This gives him a clearer understanding than were we to use "conscious meditation," which is much nearer the true state, and, while only partly grasped by the Initiate, its true nature is fully known and consciously realized by the Master or Adept.  This is the state of consciousness which the other members of the "Inner Circle" have referred to as non-directional motion, or free motion in space; this is the state where mind loses its consciousness of being the observer of a thing and becomes the thing it was observing.

In my opinion, however, such a condition is an illusion.  Nevertheless, it is the Divine illusion suffered only by the Gods.  Mind cannot lose its own identity completely; otherwise it would fall into complete and absolute oblivion.  It loses, in this case, its sense awareness of its position as observer only; otherwise it would not be able to bring back any conscious recollection of the experienced sensation of having become that which it had observed and merged with.

Speaking thus, for one to assume that the mind is not always actively conscious of being itself is, in my opinion, pure folly.  Man on earth has come to that erroneous conclusion simply because of being locked up in the chemical world.  He had, for the larger part, lost his ability to see and comprehend beyond his three-dimensional state of awareness.

[This transcript continues in the blog article "Channeled Descriptions About the Creation of the Universe, Earth Beings and Soulmates" with this instruction from 'Yada,' followed by that of the Maharajah Natcha Tramalaki.]


The Maharajah Natcha Tramalaki:
 
Now let us turn for a moment to the whys and wherefores of reincarnation.  Look around at the world you are living in.  Study not only your fellow men, but observe closely all forms of life.  What do you see?  You see little more than constant and ever-increasing turmoil, suffering, pain, greed, lust, hate.  Now, as brutal as these words sound and as the actions of them are, they can yet be summed up under a single heading consisting of one word.  That word is "striving."

That word "strife" means action of an intense kind.  On the face of it, those of you who are just beginning to come into what is called "the light," find this picture of the world anything but a pleasant one.  But try to remember that you too were once a "sleeper"; you did not see clearly.  Being in the forest you could not see the trees.  Now, however, you have come out into a clearing and are looking back and it has become painful for you to find so many of the trees blighted by various diseases and blasted and gnarled by fire, wind and rain.

With this new perspective of the forest, the novice may become overwhelmed with two conflicting emotions — the first being a sense of the hopelessness of it all, which gives him a terrifying feeling of frustration; and next, a fanatical craving to dive back into the distorted forest with axes, saws and dynamite to cut down and blast out each and every tree that he feels to be evil and ugly.  Not being a forester, and therefore not qualified to determine what really constitutes a good tree, in his blind zeal he becomes a greater menace to the forest than all the strongest winds, the hottest fires and the greatest plagues a forest ever suffered in the course of its life and growth.

We suggest to all of you who are suddenly beset with this desire to nominate yourselves expert "foresters"—or world saviors—that before you permit your zeal to get out of hand, you make an intensive and extensive study of trees — or men.  Seek to know them individually and collectively; how and why they have appeared in a particular environment; the nature of their action; and, most important of all, to find out for yourself whether or not anything has not only a chance for survival after the form has been destroyed, but also if it in any manner existed before in a different dimension, at another time.
 
 
True, there are forces that can work an evil for you but you need only to refrain from centering your thoughts in their direction to avoid them.  And, true, there is a kind of personal Savior and God — but these are not apart from you.  Indeed, they are you.  The word "Christ" is a title and it is bestowed upon each and every individual on Earth — but only after many life experiences does each one gain that glorious title, by diligently working for it, not simply by being kindly and following the laws made in your own environment, while very commendable, has no bearing on attaining the Christ state.

Remember, let nothing keep you from constantly striving in this direction.  I say to you in the most sincere way I know, there is no other way to attain your final freedom from the steel chains that bind you to the hell of material living and regain your lost paradise which lies in the vast and beautiful Etheric World.


Kay Ting:

Now, while it may seem that I have spoken of the Group Soul as though it were some kind of human entity, as the Christians do of their God, it is not to be thought of as such, but rather as a force that came into being with Man’s entrance into the physical world, and which pervades all things as a necessary form of action towards the continuity of the harmonious pattern that must exist in the law of growth.

One of the most beautiful characteristics of the law of ever-becoming is the lack of acknowledgement of a time-limit.  If we but consciously realize this, we will attain and hold a calm state of mind in our efforts to go forward.

 
There is nothing new in the statement that all forms act and react in accord with their environment in place and time, but because Man is capable of thinking and reasoning, he is more able to adapt himself to almost any environment or new condition that may arise in that environment.

However true the above Statement may be, Man is yet of the animal kingdom, and his body structure and general actions show him to be, and he is to this day no less under the influence of the Group Soul, and until each individual becomes consciously aware of his own divinity, there can be no escaping this influence.  For, as incomprehensible as it may seem to most of us, it keeps all things in a harmonious pattern of action until each and every thing has attained its highest state of growth, which was designed for it in the beginning of three-dimensional time.

 
Lo Sun Yat:

Man is a stranger to the matter world!  He knows not how he entered herein nor from whence he has come; nor does he know what to do within the short period of time that he has here!  Lacking this knowledge, it is quite natural that once he is here he fears having to leave, for his destination is as moot a question as all the others.

By appearances it may seem odd indeed that man should find existence to be such an enigma, especially when it is realized that man has been coming and going from the world of matter for upward of a billion years.  Factually, however, it is not odd at all when we come to understand that the human entity is a center of Self-awareness and as such is The Creator of all that is created and that the so-called matter world is another of His creations which He is experiencing.  By this I mean that the matter world is not something in itself into which He comes and from which He goes, nor for that matter are any of the other worlds.  However, it is the mode of operation He uses in creating which causes Him to suffer the illusion of going and coming as well as the delusion that He knows not anything regarding Himself or the origin of His creations.  And what is this mode of Operation?  It is simply this: while He is creating, He is completely unaware of His Creation; and once He stops the act of creating, He becomes aware of that which He created, and in doing so He is no longer aware of being its Creator.

Now, providing this reader is capable of comprehending the above Statements, he will come to see the reason and purpose behind the need of meditation.  Meditation is an effort made on the part of the lower mind to breach the gap between itself and the Higher Mind.  Once this is accomplished, the sense of separateness that exists between The Creator and His creation will cease to exist.

True meditation is a rather intense kind of introspection; so, if you are to get anything of value from its practice, you must go where it is quiet and your body must be clean, or irritations will rise in it which will distract your mind and cancel out your best efforts.  As a matter of suggestion, I think it best, before starting your period of meditation, that you take a warm bath and, if your room is free of drafts, that you sit without clothing of any kind, for clothes have a way of irritating the body also.  If you are hungry, it is best to take only a little warm milk and perhaps some fruit.

Now as you take up your position, let your first thoughts be that you are going before your Maker, the Divine High Self.  Take three deep breaths, in and out slowly, and close your eyes so as to shut out the external world around you and begin to let your body relax.  Upon feeling your body to be in a completely relaxed state, start to center your vision (with your eyes remaining closed) up to the root of the nose at a point slightly above the eyebrows.  By putting your consciousness upon this spot you will be removing it from the external eyes and giving it to the internal Eye or All-seeing Eye of the High-Self.  This is the act of what is called "giving yourself to God."

I must remind the beginner that in his first few experiments in meditation he may get nothing more from it than the pleasure the body feels from relaxing, but do not let this discourage you.  You may also, in the first part of your meditation, become aware of strange sounds such as rappings and voices, but try not to pay attention to them for they are simply manifestations of your lower psyche and can do you no harm other than to hold you back from attaining your goal should you become fascinated by the phenomenon.

Man has been living so long on the outer-side of the Magic Bag that it is little wonder that any experience he may have on the inner is astounding and sometimes frightening to him.

Generally speaking, the Western mind lacks discipline.  It is incapable of realizing and enjoying pleasures mentally.  Every desire must be met with body satisfaction and all things must be accomplished in a hurry.  This attitude to life frustrates the mind and brings on rapid deterioration of the body. 

We can know how completely the body is related to the mind only as we realize that it is but an extension of the mind.  In the past, and to a large extent in the present, it has been taught that body and mind were two different entities.  This belief has led many into thinking that they could cater to the body and neglect the mind, and vice versa.  In India, there is a class of Hindu which believe that, by scourging the body, his soul, spirit, or mental-self will be better received by God.  While it is true that by mental suggestion the nerve-ends can be so blocked that the brain cannot receive pain impulses the Mental Self is still aware that its physical extension is being abused, and when the Mental Self withdraws its attention from its physical-self in what is called death, it will carry memory patterns of such abuse with it into its next expression which you have learned to call the Astral.  Of course, I do not mean to imply that the astral body will now begin to suffer any actual pain for pain is a relative condition, but the memory patterns will consist of the actions the body-self experienced and will again be reenacted in the afterlife.

This is especially true should we get emotionally attached to an experience and find ourselves repeating over and over again.  It is truly said that we are the sum and total of our experiences.  If we accept this thought, then we need but a little more intelligence to realize the folly of emotional attachment.  Man is free to do whatever he desires but if he acts only under the dictates of his emotions, he soon loses his ability to discriminate between what is intelligent to do and what is not.

Many people believe that meditation is some kind of higher thinking but such is not the case.  The true meditative state comes to one only after he has stopped trying to think and reason.  However, we cannot let go of our belief that by thinking and reasoning we can solve the seeming mystery of our own being when under the domination of our emotions.  The ego, having no awareness of the Higher Self, is afraid to let go lest it be vanquished into darkness and oblivion.  Of course there is some truth in the ego's fears that it will be vanquished, but what it doesn’t know is that only by losing itself can it find Itself.

The material world by its own nature does not permit man to let go of his ego entirely but he can learn to so yoke the ego, or lower emotional self, to the High-Self that the true nature of the external world will be revealed to him for what it is — maya, illusion, sensory-dream.  With this enlightenment, the external world ceases to be a menace to his existence.


Ramon Natalli:

Science and philosophy are the only paths of safety that man has to lead him from the thralldom of religious dogma and Superstition.

Every time man puts his foot back on the so-called material plane, he is instantly engulfed in the muddy torrent of the aforementioned concepts.  That any manage to rise above the surface of these insidious waters long enough to catch a glimpse of the lights called philosophy and science that tell them a beautiful land of truth lies within their reach, is to me a wonderful phenomenon in itself.

Praise be to whatever the Ultimate Force may be, man holds an unbreakable Unity with his fellow-creatures in the world of Thought, even though walls of conscious awareness form what appear to him at first to be insurmountable barriers between the many worlds.

There are a number of highly educated men and women who shy away from the use of metaphysics and occult teachings as something too nebulous and vague; and yet these same people will be found using equally vague and abstract hypotheses in approaching a given subject.  For instance — many otherwise great scientific men will look down their long, superior noses at you if you even suggest the possibility of an individual surviving bodily death, much less that they can be contacted and conversed with!  And yet, these same gentlemen of letters will look at you with a straight face while trying to explain the atom, although the only way they have of knowing that such a particle exists is by mathematical equations; and in the realness of things, figures or numbers have no more concrete bases than does anything else. 
 
 
For the vast uninitiated majority it is best for them to keep the assumption of a definite beginning and end to things.  As for the learned, they must come to one of two conclusions sooner or later; first, that there is an Ultimate Force whom they must assume to be the One God, and entirely apart from themselves; or (2), that they, themselves, are Gods and The Ultimate in essence of All.

There is no middle-of-the-road compromise for the initiated.   But whichever road they take, they must hold fast to it with the courage of their own convictions. However, they must at no time try to sway another onto their road in any manner whatsoever.  They are duty-bound, nevertheless, to pass on their learning to their fellow-men — but they must leave the seeker to arrive at his own conclusions.

The general mass of God-men of the Etheric World had no particular desire, or knowledge, of producing for themselves a new state of mind, a new Vibration, a yet lower plane to live in; but man then, as man now, is a creator.  This Creative impulse is something he has no control over.  It is a tremendous must with him.  His will and desire enter in, only in what he creates, but not in the impulse itself.

The seeds for the physical world you live in, and all the vast cosmos from end to end, or the circle without end, originated in the scientific minds of the Etheric World, implanted there by the Great Creative Impulse.

It was through this dominative, inquisitive desire that man first thought that if he could in some manner break up the merge-pattern of his energies in the Low Etheric World he would then perhaps be able to produce what you call free motion.  In so doing he knew that he would first have to arrest the homogeneous motion of his world.  But, as no body once put in motion can be stopped or held back without the force or body that stops it being equal to it, he found himself up against an extremely difficult problem.

In other words he had to figure out an entirely different way of thinking.

To know the world of Matter is to know the world of Non-Matter which is the world of Mind, and to know the world of Mind is to have Cosmic Consciousness.

In reading the above Statement and realizing at the same time the rather vast amount of scientific data regarding the nature of matter that has been compiled by the scientists, one may jump to the conclusion that the scientist is in a much better position to receive Cosmic Consciousness than anyone else.  Of course such a conclusion would not be true, for all who are genuinely Creative are in tune with the Cosmic Mind.

 
The atom is truly the "Magic Bag" of the universe.  It contains so many properties that one could go on forever and never touch on all of these properties and the things they are capable of performing.  With their vital substances they paint and mold the universe.  They are the very stuff upon which our dreams are made!  The gray matter in the head called the brain is made up of billions of them, and when we think our thoughts squeeze some of the "juice" out of them in the form of neutron showers.  Rub certain molecules of them gently, and they give up some of their energies in static electricity.  Hit some too hard, and their energies will erupt in violent winds of death and destruction.

As almost everyone knows, the word "fission" means to create a cleavage or break in a single unit.  In fissioning atoms, a stream of extremely high speed protons are fired at the atoms and eventually the force field that surrounds the proton crashes into the force field of one of the orbiting bodies of the atom with the driving impact of millions of electron volts.  The reaction of this applied force is heat, light, force, and the radiation of ions or negative electrons erupting from deeper layers of the atom.

Now, my purpose in explaining the activity of atom fissioning is simply to point out to the reader who may be unfamiliar with the subject that, notwithstanding all the above-mentioned force that is brought to bear on the atom, no actual cleavage or true break off of pieces has occurred.  To understand this, we must first realize that there is no such thing as matter and energy.  While I have referred to the atom as being a "body" and electrons as having "structure" we must not let these words lead us into the belief that the universe is made up of two different kinds of substance and that the substance called "matter" exists as ultimate bits or pieces.  An atom is made up of a number of force fields, with each one of these force fields having its own particular rate of motion or Vibration.  Now if any of this is clear at all, I am sure it will become apparent to the reader, that all that happens to the atom when fissioned is to greatly expand the field of operation of the outer shells in reference to the innermost ones called the nucleus, thereby giving the atom a larger volume of space to work in.

In thinking of the world around us, we automatically conjure up the feeling called solidness and then imagine it to be a property of this world, when in fact it is but a sensory measurement of the world of "Adam."  Adam, the Magician, who by the use of his magical wands called the senses, makes passes over the walls of his imagination, and who by crying out, "Abracadabra" causes vast and complex murals to appear and disappear on the walls.  And no matter the number of pictures Adam creates, he entitles them all — "reality."

 
Arakashi: 

It is wrongly supposed that gravitation is some form of three-dimensional energy at work.  It is mind force working on or in Chemical fields.  It directs the electrons that spin around the atom, as well as the astronomical bodies that spin around the suns.  Matter of itself has neither shape nor form other than that desired by mind, and the seeming endlessness of matter is due to the fathomless nature of mind, which is without beginning or end.

At the present point of your civilization, you are still without the conscious knowledge of how to direct your thought forces to mold matter in visual form so it still remains what you would call a subconscious activity.  This knowledge was once yours when you existed in former lives in other civilizations that have long gone down into dust.  Every civilization acquires this knowledge after it has reached a certain high state of consciousness; but each and all in the past misused it to dominate the masses, thereby bringing about their sudden and violent end.

It must be remembered and thoroughly understood that the particular body in which man may be operating is of no true importance to life.  So, if what he does causes the eventual destruction of that body, whether it is of one or a hundred million such bodies, no real calamity has been suffered as far as life goes.  It is only the emotional centers of the body that cause the individual mind to assume that a great or a small disaster has taken place, the size and importance of the assumed tragedy depending on how it affects man as an individual.  So, you see, it is not the body that is important to man, but the consciousness.

The true God is not vengeful, nor has "It" any of the negative attributes of the Jewish God of your Christian Bible.  "Its" actions are in no way motivated by what physical man calls emotion—and more, "It" is not Cognizant of matter in shape and form, whether it be that of man, animal or things—for all of these are the One Thing, and God is interested in and aware of that One only.  The essence of that One is conscious awareness.  Without it, nothing could exist on any plane.

Now, a word to those who have been raised in the Christian orthodox churches, and who through such teachings have come to believe that "The Lord thy God is a jealous God" who suffers his children to go through the alleged tortures of a purgatory.  I can only say that such beliefs are best suited for you until such time as you awaken to life's greater purpose.  There is only this to remember: Life is as you believe it to be, and you are your thoughts.  So, whatsoever you believe, do so with all your heart.  But, whatever your thoughts, do not be ashamed of them, but face them and try to understand them — for truthfully, all thoughts are of God.  If they seem wrong or evil to you, it is only because your physical self has, through the emotional body, misinterpreted the thought impulse or mental picture.  A wrong Interpretation brings about a wrong act.

It is my belief that neither man nor animal commits an act of any kind, good or bad, for the act itself, nor because his act will bring pleasure or pain to another — because no one separate individual can really know what constitutes pain or pleasure for or in another.  Of course, we assume we know, but our assumption is based only on our individual feeling as to what gives us pleasure or pain.  Certain kinds of pleasure for one can be extreme pain to another, and vice versa.

When a man sets out to torture another, he does not start doing so by conjuring up in his mind what mode of torture would be most unpleasant for that other, but by imagining what would be most unbearable to himself.  A masochist is an inhibited sadist, and a sadist is an inhibited masochist.  A man giving alms to charity does so not because he is capable of sensing the great relief from lack it will bring to another but because the giving brings him a bolstering of his own ego and sense of self-security.

When a man and woman who claim to have great love for one another set out to culminate that love in the sex act, they seldom do so with the desire to bring pleasure to one another, but strictly to themselves; and in the few cases where they may really consider the other above themselves, their ideas are formed and acted upon by what brings the greatest sense of gratification to their own physical bodies and minds.

What I am attempting to get at is merely the fact that we are all unknown quantities to one another.  One man never comes face to face with another man but what he comes face to face with himself, but not knowing himself, others appear as an X-quantity to him.  If all this is true, is it not logical to obey the teaching of all the Great Teachers; that you love one another?  For in so doing, you really love yourself.

 
. . . in regard to mental communication, or what you call "telepathy" — we wish to strike at this boldly by stating flatly that there is absolutely no such thing as the latter, but there very definitely is the former.  By this, we mean that to use the word "telepathy" is to imply something sent through space by a wave of energy from a given point to another given point.  Such a concept is entirely due to your assumption that space-time is something apart from the individual—outside of him, as it were—and having an existence of its own.  We, of course, can readily understand how one still living in the physical body can arrive at such conclusions, for we at one time also thought the same.  But let us assure you, my good friends, that this is decidedly not the true situation — and we are not now talking philosophically, but are relating facts as clearly as we can with words.

If space-time was an existing condition, separate from consciousness, then consciousness could never become aware of it; but space-time is consciousness and is everywhere present.  It never began and therefore shall never end, and there is no motion to it.  That which you see in motion is a creation of It, Consciousness, and these endless States of motion are molded into gases, liquids and solids, according to the needs of the varied and endless modes of consciousness.  Some of these modes are what physical man calls time and environment.
 
 
Now, the physical man does not think but is merely the machine that is acted upon by the true man, which in Sanscrit is called Atman, meaning The Self.  It is in Atman that you will find the seat of memory also, and forgetfulness in the physical man comes about simply because the Atman has, for one reason or another, lost momentary contact with man or His machine that He uses to express Himself with on the material plane.

 
Atman is the Great Knower — knowing all there is to know, fully comprehending the atomic structure of all Chemical Compounds that go to make up any material thing.  Man need not know; all man need learn to do is how to turn the mental picture of a thing completely over to Atman; and the only way man can do this is by what we shall call deep-seated trance, for the want of a better term.  Of course, as there are no set laws to be found anywhere in life, trance, the complete giving-over of man to Atman, is an arbitrary condition.  The Adept, Christ, demonstrated this in the multiplication of food matter, while in full consciousness — but the ability to do so, in the comparative few who have attained it, is theirs because these individuals are living on the border that divides the subjective and objective worlds, and so have continual contact.

For endless eons of time before Earth’s form of aggregated matter came into being, man’s life was a subjective one.  There were, however, many grades of subjectivity.  The lowest of these at that time was what we shall call the low etheric. 

At that time this plane of consciousness was considered by many to be Hell, in practically the same way many people on your Earth plane consider your Earth, and for precisely the same reason, although most of those on your Earth plane are unaware consciously of why they think so — the true reason being that matter, as you come down the planes, is more condensed; and the more condensed matter becomes, the more violent in its parts it is; and so it is only natural that the deeper Atman, or pure consciousness, tries to enter into material substance, the greater becomes its sense of pain and suffering. 

 
Knowing this to be the way of man at large, who is lost in the dark jungles of his own personal ego, we advise all true seekers of life to hold their own counsel.  Your efforts should always be in developing and expanding your own state of consciousness; and to do this rightly you must keep what you learn strictly to yourself, giving of your learning only when it is asked for earnestly.  And then you must speak with a feeling of humility and kindness towards your listeners, for if you show yourself or feel at all irritated or in any way superior to those who seek you, you will but demonstrate the fact that you really know nothing of what you are saying.  The truths of life need no defenders.  It is wisely said, "One who seeks to defend his beliefs is himself not secure in them." 
 
 
Professor Alfred Luntz:

Trance, normal sleep and so-called death all are merging of the personality of the individual with the Universal Force, or Cosmic Mind — the states being relative.  All forms of life have their being in this great sea of intelligence.

You can liken the physical world to a mirror, inasmuch as it is the reflection of the Real and Everlasting Consciousness working through Man.

During many years of my earth life I learned, and later taught, that this Everlasting Consciousness which I then called GOD and thought of as an individual Being was quite capable and always willing to punish or reward people.  Now let me point out some thing here that would be well to consider.  Suppose, for instance, you were to go to sleep some night and waken in a dream world, and there you would see many people doing all manner of things — some good deeds and some bad, as you understand those abstract terms.  Now, for the most part, all the people in your dream are your children — you created them, and most of them are doing exactly as you wish them to do, even though you may not be consciously aware of the fact.  Now, do you, or would you, feel justified in sentencing them to an everlasting hell or a perpetual heaven for what they are doing?  And even if you felt justified in so desiring, just how do you suppose you could carry out your wish?  Mankind is in the same position to God, or God to man.  The only thing you could do would be to destroy the entire dream world, and that would mean annihilating the good with the bad; and even then the only way this could be accomplished would be by awakening back to your physical world.  The Cosmic Mind not being an individual, God is not likely to awaken from Its mystic slumber or perpetual sleep, thereby voiding the Great Dream.

But all that you do or do not do is in the Divine Plan and is expected of you, for only through your constant doing can you grow; and as you are the Divine Plan and Planner, both, you cannot act otherwise.  Remember this and you will always be at least moderately happy. 
 
 
Thomas Carlyle:

If man is to know himself he will first have to stop thinking of himself as a physical body. 
 
The eternal question that besets the thinker of today is the same as it was in the beginning — namely, Who am I?  And where from?  And where going?  There can be no doubt that these are questions of the utmost importance to man, and you have a pressing need in your present era for a better understanding of these questions.  Much greater is your need than at any time in the physical history of man.  Why?  Simply because man's next point in his evolution is that of brain and mind — or what is not too aptly termed spirit.
 
Of the three questions, who, from and where, I do not feel that the first is of the greatest importance by any means, nor indeed can it be answered by material words; and were I pressed to give an answer, I could give only that which has been given before — that you are The Eternal One.
 
To place a tag or name on The Eternal One would be to make It temporal and mortal.  To attempt to know It by known standards of the physical world would be to know only Its action in the physical-chemical world.  Nor shall we do any better with this question on any other plane of consciousness.  All we shall ever know is action, but never what or who the Mover is.
 
I have heard these questions argued by many who call themselves intellectuals, and some end the debate with this kind of answer: "We are nothing, we came from nothing, and we are headed for nothing."  But this is merely mortal reasoning; though even as such, it is without logic.  For, if matter is indestructible, think how much more so must be That which moves matter.  Let us suppose one could receive the final answer to this question — the consequence would be the complete cessation of that one's conscious existence on any plane, for it would automatically bestow upon the receiver all knowledge, and there would be no further reason for having a consciousness.  
 
It is said that when one receives illumination, he suddenly realizes the oneness of himself with the Universe.  He comprehends life as a unit, and himself as that unit.
 
But how is one to attain such an all-embracing state of awareness?  Surely not through any known method of either concrete or abstract reasoning.  In reasoning, the mind goes through a process of correlating the known facts and theories of a given subject and making comparisons of one with the other; and the answers arrived at will largely depend upon the reasoner's ability to place all the facts and theories in proper sequence so that they match like links in a chain.  However, no amount of reasoning — or what is termed logical thinking — will bring one illumination.  In fact, this wondrous state of awareness comes upon one long after reason and logic have proven themselves useless tools in seeking Self-Realization.
 
In the quest of the "Overself," we are not seeking the Ultimate, but rather the effort of the quest is to bring our physical into a wakeful state of awareness with our Spirit Self, or the High Consciousness, so that we will find a more complete state of balance in our living. 
 
There is nothing in the least mysterious about this desire to know yourself and your Self.  In fact, it is a great psychological necessity. . . .

The Inner Circle Trance Channeling Session Transcript

 




Conducted By
MARK PROBERT
Famous San Diego Trance Medium


Prof. Luntz: "I see you have a letter there from a Mary L. Lucas of Dayton, Ohio, and that it contains eight questions on subjects concerning the Christian religion.  I would like to answer four of those questions."
 
Irene Probert: "Fine, Professor, I'm sure Miss Lucas would love to have you do so."
 
"The first question is: If God is all good and He created everything, as the Christian churches claim, where did evil come from?"

Prof. Luntz: "Before I answer any of those four questions, I wish to make a few remarks of a pertinent nature to the reader.  The first one is: Life is a 'PERSONAL' experience, therefore it is impossible to get anything more than a personal opinion to the questions with which we ply one another.  This being the case, as I see it, if we truly are of an inquiring mind, let us stand emotionally detached concerning the answers we get to the questions we ask.  Try to remember that whatever I say to you in answer to these questions, I am giving to you from my store of active experience, regarding them both in the physical, and 'Astral.'  You from your own experiences may find things quite different.  The second remark is, and I think it would be worthy of your time to remember it as often as possible: Do not ever rise in anger to defend that which you believe to be truth, for if you do it will be a sign that you do not feel secure in it yourself.  Truth is self-evident and needs neither person or nation to fight for its existence.

"Now let us consider that first question.  Let us begin by studying the question from the standpoint of 'semantics,' which simply means the 'nature of words' or the meaning of them.  Words can be dangerous and destructive. or beautiful and constructive, depending upon who is using them and for what purpose.  Now let us take the first five words pf the question put  forth by Miss Lucas and see if we can make any sense of them: If 'God' is all good.  In the first place, just what does Miss Lucas or any other human being mean when they use the word 'God'?  Of course I realize that we think we are using the name of THE Creator, but if we really THINK about it for a moment we will realize that the word 'God' is simply that — a word and no more.  We have all conditioned one another into using this word in the belief that we are referring to some THING in itself, but we are not.  What we are doing is using it as a reference to a completely UNKNOWN quantity, quality or state, with the effort to bring the UNKNOWABLE into what we have been conditioned to accept as the KNOWABLE, or in short 'The abstract into the concrete.'  The word 'GOOD' is also but an abstract quality of being and has no existence apart from our own inner and outer attitudes to the experience called living, and the same is true about that which we call evil.  That man has been grappling with these two concepts of life from the date of his first appearance on the earth is a truth that is self-evident, so I am not denying their existence — I'm simply trying to make clear the fact that they have no existence in themselves, but exist because man exists and are products of the way he has been conditioned to react to situations in his environment.

"As an instance of this, let us look at the 'alcholic' problem you are faced with — literally millions of people are alcoholics or are becoming so!"



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Prof. Luntz: (cont'd) "Now the question is: Is alcohol the evil, or can we say that the consumption of it is the evil?  A number of years ago your country, believing it had a problem of evil called alcoholism, passed a law against the use of it as a beverage; in so doing, thousands of men were hired to carry out the task of pouring endless gallons of alcohol from bottles, kegs and vats into the sewerage system.  What your government forgot to do was to open the heads of those who drank the stuff and those who sold it, to say nothing of those that passed the law, and poured their brains down the sewer along with the alcohol, for only then could such a law be successful, for the evil that seems to be in alcohol is not in the alcohol per se, but in the brain and mind as fear, uncertainty and frustrated desires.  These negative attitudes are thrust upon all civilization; but remember — all these complexities have their origin in the mind of man and NOT in any god per se, and when man learns how to think he will turn his complexities to simplicities and thereupon ALL the gods will smile happily and say to themselves, 'Well, by us gods we didn't create zombies after all!'"

Irene Probert: "This is Question 2, Professor: Is there such a creature as Satan. and is there actually such a place as Hell, and is it a fiery pit as the Christian church teaches?"

Prof. Luntz: "Certainly there is a creature known as Satan!  Don't you realize, young lady, that you are committing a mortal sin by even questioning this?  Who do you suppose the Church God is playing tug of war with for your soul?  The Old Boy in the red suit, that's who!  But let me tell you a little secret — he is no more than the mental concoction of the priestly system to be found in all religions of man and he was created by  them to scare the pants of the ignorant and the fearful!

"Now I speak in another view of this bogeyman of religion.  Once upon a time a great being of light came to earth from outer space.  He came to help man.  By those who sought his aid he was given the name 'Lucifer' which means 'The Light Bearer' or 'Angel of Light.'  The vested interest of the times that opposed him and sought to destroy him spread rumors that their gods had informed them (via their oracles, of course) that this Lucifer person was not a Messenger of Light bit was indeed the ringleader of a great rebellion in the world of the gods, and though the chief god had rebuked him on several occasions for his misbehavior they finally had to toss him and a few thousand of his followers out of 'Heaven,' which is the name of the world of the gods.  Having nowhere else is all the vast universe to toss this bunch of ex-gods and their leader, whose real name by the way was 'Satan!,' they gathered them all up and dropped them down the heavenly trash chute to you know where!; and where, as all Christians know, he and his boys (Imps to you) have been raising hell with man ever since.

"It should not be too surprising that the gods dumped 'Satan' and his cohorts on the earth, for if you will take the trouble to check back into ancient history of the earth you will find it to be the dumping ground of the entire universe for every undesirable thing imaginable.  Let us name a few of these undesirables: Rains of blood, rains of stones and fish, large and small blocks of ice and things that looked like ice but were not ice, clouds of soot, chunks of flesh with hair on it, sudden appearance of strange animals and sea creatures, and tons of small disc-shaped objects with a furry nap on the outside and vile-smelling custard-like substance inside, rains of hard-shell insects of an unknown variety, rains of stone axes and pieces of metal, rains of dust, to say nothing of flying and falling discs!  I don't think it necessary to go further in naming the 'junk' that the universe dumps on your earth, so why should we appear dismayed in having 'Old Nick' and his pals dumped in our lap also.  In one respect this ex-god is a 'godsend' to man and his egocentric belief that he is not to be held liable for his own acts.

"By the way, my friends, I've heard it rumored that 'Nickey-boy,' having become weary of being the butt for the failures of mortal man, is changing his name from 'Satan' to 'Goat.'  How jolly!  And how apropos!  If we look squarely at ourselves, we will find  that we humans are neither good, bad nor indifferent.  Our actions are wrought out of our thinking, and largely speaking most of our thinking comes from the conditioning we get in our particular environment, and it is out of this conditioning that our hells and heavens, gods and devils are made."

Irene Probert: "The third question is: Is Reincarnation compulsory, or are there perhaps several types of punishment, or methods of learning, which can be chosen by the soul?"
 
Prof. Luntz:  "Neither reincarnation or any other act of the individual is compulsory, for there is nothing to compel him to do other than his own desires.  The trouble is that few of us are more than half-awake; we have little awareness of what our desires really are, so the result is we are moved around like puppets on the strings of our emotions with no conscious control over what we do at all.  Birth into the physical world can hardly be considered as 'punishment.'

"You speak of 'Reincarnation' as though you considered it a form of punishment.  I'm sure you did not intend it.  While it is true that there is a frightful amount of suffering in the physical world, if we let go of our fanciful and romantic outlook on life we will see that suffering in a natural condition of the physical world.  In its mechanics it is parasitical, simply meaning that it lives off itself or, to put it in perhaps a crude way, it is the constant process of devouring itself, but is also giving birth to itself at the same time.  The latter must be so or the matter world would 'eat' itself out of existence.
 
"Undoubtedly some of you will feel repelled by the manner in which I have couched my thoughts in the foregoing, so I'll rephrase it in this way: The matter world is simply a world of chemicals, and its continuance depends upon the mechanics of breakdown from matter to energy (eating itself) and buildup (giving birth to itself), and this action and counteraction must [go] on at a more or less even rate or the matter world would eventually dissipate itself 'out of existence' or, in other words, into 'pure' energy.

"However true all this may be, the point that I am trying to make is simply this: It is largely from this kind of action that that which is sensed as suffering stems.  The god that CONSCIOUSLY creates pain, and wishes it onto another, dwells in the minds of men.  He is known by two names, to wit, Sadistic and Masochistic, and he is born out of the guilt, shame and fear that sits on the whole human race along with a burning desire for self-punishment!  However, few of us have the courage to take the punishment that our guilty feelings try to impose upon us, so we mentally seek some other to take the punishment for us and who could fit the bill better than one who understands life and is therefore not touched with the dry rot of guilt and shame.  Some of you may think I am referring to one called Jesus the Christ alone as the 'Innocent' one.  Well, let me assure you that I'm not, for every religion has its own 'Whipping boy.'  My references are made not to any single department of man's doings but to everything he does in general."

Irene Probert: "The fourth and last question, Professor, is: Is it possible to so perfectly forgive a person for harming you that he can be released from acquiring any karma as a result of his injury to you?"

Prof. Luntz: "No, it is not — not unless the one seeking forgiveness is also capable of forgiving himself.  When we harm another and then go to them asking for their pardon, it is a sign of recognition on our part first, that we did harm them, and secondly, that we harmed them unjustly; for if we really believe that we had dealt them with their just deserts we would not have acquired the guilty feeling which is the force that drives us to plea for forgiveness.  So the truth is — we are simply seeking to rid ourselves of a worrisome thorn in our mental hide before it festers into an open sore.  In my humble estimation, it is more necessary to get forgiveness from one's self than it is to get it from another.  There are two very sound reasons for my saying this, and I'm sure the reader will see the logic in them.  The first one is that it is always possible that the one you are seeking forgiveness from may refuse you.  The other one is that he may not, for a variety of reasons or causes, be in a position where you can reach him.  For instance, he may be dead!  Then what?  To use one of your amusing American expressions: 'Brother, you are a gone goose!'  For no matter how many avenues of communication there may be to the 'Astral,' if you disbelieve or know not of them you will have no access to that one, which means that you will have to carry that thorn of guilt all the rest of your life.  How ghastly!  And how unnecessary!  While it is always right to seek forgiveness from those we have harmed, we must assure ourselves that we truly regret having harmed that one and that we will never take such negative action again against another, and then put the whole episode out of our minds and we can do the latter best by making our lives one of service and love to our fellow men."
  

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