Transcript of This Blogger's Latest Revealing Yet Censored Podcast Interview

 

Despite the technical difficulties that occurred at first, at the conclusion of my SNX Radio interview conducted by Coley Weber and Miya Starfire I hoped everyone concerned found the event a positive and thought-provoking one although this blogger is keenly aware of how unusual are many circumstances of my unexpected path of paranormal, metaphysical and spiritual discovery.  When a couple days later the video disappeared at YouTube and X.com, it was evident that the video's producer was expressing some manner of trepidation — therefore, an opportunity is recognized to learn precisely what bureaucratic or 'knee-jerk' fear is involved with the decision to exclude anyone from honestly sharing one's experiences and perspectives of life in a public forum in a forthright way.  Usually related to commercial maneuvering, news and information media regulation has been a recurring subject of commentary in articles at this blog.  (incl. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8)  As made known during the interview, it has been my personal purpose in life to enable other people to expand their understanding of momentous aspects of life.

 

(7/22/26 Update: Today, it was discovered that the interview video is again available as shown below, complete with the grotesque AI-generated version of someone supposed to be me yet I never would wear a corporate noose.  However, the interview video has now been edited from a length of 2 hours, 22 minutes and 58 seconds to 1 hour, 21 minutes and 53 seconds, as shown below.)

 

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This redacted version of the interview video (more than an hour has been deleted and the video only presents the ghastly AI depiction of me without any accompanying video showing the actual interview being conducted as previously) has returned at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM0v_G2TUAs (with only 3 views at the time it was viewed by myself once more) as mysteriously as it was formerly made private.  Regarding word repetitions in this transcript, as there is no video image showing whether or not my lips are moving I can't precisely determine which instances may be EVP yet tonality changes are occasionally conspicuous while listening to my voice on the audio recording.

 

(10/2/26 Update: Today I noticed the redacted version of the interview is again available at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW3p1N2EZvI with the original interview footage while the version with only the AI artwork and audio interview continues to be available at Exer 2026 TV Spot 1920x1080 06sec.)

 

I'd warned Foley just prior to the start of the podcast that she probably would find shocking the events that I would be describing and during the interview (as indicated in the transcript) I mentioned: ". . . as you can see I'm totally normal in every way except I've had these bizarre experiences."

  

Coley asked me to wear headphones for the interview to improve the sound quality so I cooperated.  This hadn't been an issue during my preceding podcast interview with Michelle Desrochers that was also conducted on the StreamYard platform.

 

 

Initially, I was surprised that Coley had selected as the focus for the interview my paranormal initiation and case study book while excluding the UFOlogy data mentioned in an Email with the subject "For Journalists Seeking Essential Facts About UFOs / UAP and Space People, This Webpage Is For You . . ." that I'd provided to her and other news media concerning the "new noncommercial blog UFOs / UAP / Space People / UFOlogy Index of Linked Evidentiary Articles" yet I've always appreciated how thought impulses such as this one serve a purpose.

 

Soon after the interview was conducted on the evening of June 28, an interview transcript was automatically generated by YouTube's speech recognition AI and I copied it at that time while I began preparing a blog article that would share with readers a link to the YouTube video presenting the interview.  When a video is uploaded at the social media website, YouTube speech recognition technology automatically 'listens' to the audio and generates a transcript with corresponding timestamps.  Often, there is noticeable word omissions and misinterpretations with this process so these AI transcripts are erroneous and difficult to read.  In this instance, the quality of the AI-generated transcript was so poor that I eventually began personally typing a transcript of my interview commentary for possible inclusion in a blog article.
  

It was back on Wednesday June 24 when Coley Weber contacted me and soon thereafter the interview with myself was scheduled.

 

Here is how the interview has been promoted via Facebook — 

 

 

I didn't like the first AI depiction of myself that Coley had created for the upcoming livestream and eventually the second one actually used seems to me even more grotesque than the other.  I published an X post after the interview:

 

I was just interviewed by Coley Weber & Miya Starfire during a ColeyUFO podcast. Podcast link: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OW3p1N2EZvI&list=PLy-yGVI5_32UEalwqa7PWnljQozi7MWpc&index=139 I think this is a beneficial interview although the AI depiction of myself (seen below) is unfortunate as I never wear neckties (corporate nooses) at all. 

 

These were the first two AI renditions of me posted at YouTube.  I suggest that all video content creators never use AI depictions when proper photos of an interview guest are available.  Shown below are the two headshots of myself that I'd sent Coley via Email, offering the alternative one when the AI version appeared instead of the one that she didn't seem to have found acceptable. 

 

On June 29, at X.com I created a promotional post providing a link to the interview video.

 

Early in the morning on June 30, it became noticeable that the YouTube video was no longer available as the message shown below appeared upon clicking on the link to the video. 

 

 
I sent an Email to Coley Weber at that time.  
 

Hi Coley,

Do you know what happened to the YouTube video sharing my interview?  My X.com posts sharing a link to the video are currently bringing the message "Video unavailable" — "This video is private."  If you're redoing the video art or something, please let me know when the video becomes available again.

Thank you,

MRB

 

I next discovered that the interview continued to be viewable via at least four of Coley's @ColeyUFO posts at X.com, reposted them at my X profile page and revised the link for my promotional post offering a link to the interview.  The post is shown below.

 

 

As of today (July 4), Coley hasn't responded to my Emails.  I also sent an Email to co-interviewer Miya Starfire on the afternoon of July 2nd.
 

Hi Miya,
 
It was pleasant speaking to you during my SNX Radio interview.  I offered Coley the opportunity of a follow-up conversation to answer any lingering questions and this is also available for you.  I sent an Email to Coley on Tuesday and then again on Wednesday to see what caused the video of my interview to be deleted yet she hasn't responded.  Might you know what has caused Coley's apparent intrepidation and remorse concerning my interview with both of you?

 
When this blogger learns what is the solution to this mystery of this new censored podcast interview video, an update to this article will be added.  I have deleted occurrences of "um" from the transcript for easier reading.

 

 Transcript of my Censored SNX Radio Podcast Interview

 

Note: This is the first draft that I was in the process of typing at the time access to the video interview was lost.  I began creating the transcript by focusing on my commentary and making some notes about what was happening that I intended to expand later.  After I complete a transcript, I listen to the recording once again to include interviewer comments as relevant as well as make any necessary corrections and even ascertain if there are any EVP utterances audible on the recording. 

 

 

me: Hi Coley.  And Miya . . . Yes, I can hear you fine . . . Can you hear me?  Can you hear me?

 

(technical difficulties)

 

me: Okay.  Okay, so — oh, one small correction. There were not apparitions [as mentioned by Coley when she introduced me].  There was everything else but not apparitions in my paranormal initiation.

 

(technical difficulties)

 

me: Alright.  Can you hear me now?  Okay, good . . . Okay, yeah, this happened to me once before (at the beginning of my previous interview by Michelle Desrochers and Amelia Pisano).  So — and you're in Iowa? . . . So this is — I'm — I live in the valley, the San Fernando Valley and it has been a warm day today.  And I've lived in the Los Angeles area all of my life.  So I'm interested to see what questions you have.

 

( . . . )

 

me: This is my case study book that was published in 1997.  It's around 1,100 pages.  And since the events were so astonishing I did it in a question and answer transcript and journal format.  Instead of just describing it, I let — I did it all as interviews.  And there is plenty of photos.  I'll give you an example.  This photo here —

  

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— is called "the aliens."  And you can see little invisible [transparent] figures appearing in a window in Oklahoma.  And I have close-ups of that on my — in my articles at my blog.  Anyway, I — it's a long story.  I was born in 1956.  We lived in Culver City.  I had a twin brother named Michael.  And when I was around five — we moved to Pasadena.  My parents divorced.  And when I was around five years old I heard a voice calling my name.  And I first thought — you know, I looked at my brother.  He was asleep.  My mom was asleep. I finally thought, 'Well this must be a friend from school.  It was whispering.  "Mark . . . Mark . . ."  And that's really all that happened on that event.  But then when I was 12 or 13 — I was really into — I was always interested in the paranormal.  So I was trying to hold a seance with my twin brother in our mom's bedroom.  And I had a little glow-in-the-dark skull from Disneyland.  I was really 'in the mood.'  And all — and all I did was say "I call upon the spirits of the dead" and all of a sudden a racket of small pebbles went slamming against the window and scare[d] — scared us to death.  So I didn't do any more — that was my first and last seance at that time.  Then, in high school I was a very gifted writer.  I won national awards and local awards. I found a — I found a natural writing ability.  And when I look back at it, it almost reminds me of 'channeling' because it was so effortless for me.  I went to USC.  I wanted to major in cinema because I was aspiring to a screenwriting career.  But I guess God had other plans because all of my interactions didn't — twice I almost had a screenplay produced but in one case the producer EMI lost the money — the funding at the last moment.  And in the other case the star, who was Mickey Rooney who was an agency client—I was working at a talent agency—didn't like the fact that somebody had rewritten his idea.  Roger Corman basically was going to be the producer and I — he didn't like Mickey's script so I — I wrote a brand new one.  Mickey was very upset with me, you know, but he never confronted me personally I should say.  But I — I did enjoy working as a talent agency.  And — but then I decided to — to do — to either go into personal management or public — public relations and publicity.  So I ended up at Paramount Pictures as the staff writer.  And I'll show you some of the press kits that I wrote.  Just to give you — just to show you what it's like.  These are what were sent to the press.  It's got the stills, the production notes.  It's called the — the "Production Information."  Here's "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade."  "Ghost."  "Forrest Gump."  And "Braveheart" were all among — there's more than 100 movies that I wrote the press materials for — news releases and speeches for the Paramount studio executives.  So finally — after I first joined, they promoted me to a Senior Publicist position but then they had a layoff.  And I was forced to become an independent contractor.  And at that time I was working on movies and I had written a book about the history of talking poltergeist cases.  So there was a chance to see a real — a contemporary one in Oklahoma.  So I went in August of 1995 and my life was changed forever.  I was only —

 

(technical difficulties)

 

me: Can you hear me?  (discussion about using a telephone; however, I only use a landline so instead I tried reconnecting the webcam in another connection point of my computer.  We discussed browsers and then I put on my headphones again.  Miya mentioned that she thinks paranormal phenomena was effecting my technology and I replied, "You know, I can't say because I just don't have any idea.  My last two interviews went alright . . . I'm going to get a new webcam after this and see if that helps."  

(While Coley was reconnecting, Miya commented:) "So you were talking about how when you were a teenager you realized what a good writer you were.

 

me: Right.

 

Miya: And I believe that sometimes — well most of the time writing is a way of channeling.  

 

me: Exactly.  Yes.  I've come to the same conclusion . . . well in my case it was — like, I won a Journalism Day event at a local college and that was my first major award.  (I noticed that my webcam had become repositioned during my efforts.)  Oops, I'm not in the center.  

 

(The interview resumed.)

 

me: So I went to — let's see.  So I was working at Paramount — okay, so then I read in an issue of Fortean Times magazine about "America's Talking Poltergeist."  So I contacted the family and I arranged to interview them.  And it was just beyond belief — the things that happened.  There were different entities that were manifesting — and this was after I'd written a history book of talking poltergeist cases.  So I was beginning to make correlations between the various ones.  And — okay so the family told me all of their experiences and that's what's in Testament, the case study book.  There were coins materializing.  They told me about the different voices that had manifested.  There names were — (I had trouble to finding the list of exact names among my notes) Ricky and Nicky and "the child killer" and all these different people.  There were aliens.  One of them was named Leader.  But the main manifesting entity was named Michael.  And they weren't sure if he was an alien or a murdered child.  Or both.  So they asked the aliens where they were from.  And they said that they were from Saturn.  Okay, one of the most astonishing events that Twyla, the young 'teenager' [many poltergeist cases involve teenagers yet in this instance I meant youngest child in the family as she was actually 23 at that time] of the family told me about was that she once heard a — the house was once playing back a conversation before it had happened.  Because right after she heard it, her sister came in and the exact conversation she heard — paranomally — paranormally she then heard from her sister — her sister say.  So the phenomena was manifesting [displaying] that it was unlimited by time.

 

Miya: Was it disembodied voices, I'm sorry?  Were they disembodied voices that were coming through?

 

me:  Yes.  Yes.  And I, myself — okay, she [Twyla] took me on a drive around the countryside. [I was in the driver's sat and she told me where to go.]  And I head a giggling child in the back — the back seat.  And then I head a Oooohhhoohhh — a moan.  And she thought that was 'Leader.'  It sounded to me like Lurch because I had worked on "The Addams Family" movie.  There was — like when I called my twin brother from my hotel room he said his bed began shaking as I was speaking to him.  So — and then — then when I was in bed at night I heard this rapping at my door.  So I looked out the window.  I was thinking maybe stones or something but no, it was a beetle.  It looked like a scarab beetle.  And it was flinging — and you could hear a little rattle — and it was flinging itself against the door.  A nail bounced off my head — one of the materializing objects was a nail and it bounced off my head.  It didn't draw blood but that was — and then once I took the mother of the family — we went out to nearby Coalgate to eat.  And all of a sudden she felt her chair, which was like a wooden chair — she said it bent inward.  And then right after she said that I felt the same thing happening as if the wood twisted like — I guess just like in the old Spiritualism days with ectoplasm.  We were giving — we were being given these demonstrations that the Entity wanted us to know.

 

Coley: And Mark maybe I missed the first part of this, can you — who else is experiencing this with you?  

 

me: This was the McWethy family in Centrahoma.  

 

Coley: Oh, the ones in Oklahoma, okay.

 

me: Yeah.  And they told me something that shocked me.  They said that they had Bell ancestry because there was the famous 'Bell Witch' poltergeist case.  And I said, 'Oh my goodness, this is — is this a — I mean a [I couldn't think of the word dynasty] — is this a lineage of poltergeist cases in the same family?  But — so all these different things happened and it — they always told me, 'He always takes your money.  He always takes your money.  Check your money.  Did he take any money?'  And everything was fine.  But then — then I come back.  I had all my microcassettes.  I had my photographs.  I came back to — I was living in Echo Park at the time.  And I come home and the first call I get — one of the first calls I get is from my friend Marie.  And she said her bank account was just cleared out.  So I thought, 'Oh my gosh, is this the Entity?' . . . So — she — well she did get it back.  It was some weird bank technicality.  Well so I started transcribing the tapes.  And I was getting messages on the computer.  For example, it said "Are you nervous?" was just typed on my computer.  And then "I'll help you."  I was still watching TV—I no longer watch television—but I turned on the MTV TV series "The Real World" to relax for a few minutes.  And the TV went off.  Right, it said no.  

 

Miya: You had something follow you home then, basically?

 

me:  Well it's more complicated than that.  Remember my childhood experiences too.  Now I was 39 when I went to do the interviews.  And my life was just like everybody else's except for those . . . except for the few little weird  experiences.  You know, I was just like everybody else.  But, you're right, once I was home the phenomena would not — was endless.  I could actually see, like, the dime materialize — like, my friends were there.  My brother Mike and James.  And there was a whoosh sound as it came — as the dime came out of thin air and hit the carpet.  I called my friend — one of my — another friend of mine was — her name was Fiona.  And as I was talking to her to check in on her, she said: "A magnet just flew off my refrigerator."  So I called my mom, who doesn't — who doesn't have any inkling towards the paranormal — and I said, 'Okay, Michael, give me a sign."  And she said, 'Oh, there's nothing happening.  (she gasped)  Wait, just a moment.  A wasp is acting strangely.'  And also there was wasp phenomena also in Oklahoma so — and then once when I — okay, when I was checking in with the family because I had them sign contracts for a book deal with my attorney Jonathan Handel.  He handled all of the different contracts.  And so I would call them frequently and check in with them.  They sent me their photographs and everything.  And so once I called Twyla and the entity — one of the entities started joking about pet nicknames from my personal life that my twin brother used.  So I basically was realizing this is a geographically unlimited, all-knowing Source that was manifesting.  

 

Miya: It wasn't following any space or time — it didn't have any space or time rules like we do basically.

 

me: Well the name 'Michael' gives you a hint.  Because the Archangel Michael is the symbol for an angelic Force manifesting throughout the centuries.  It's sort of the Alter-Ego name for 'The God Force' in dealing with human beings.

 

As I was transcribing the tapes I was also getting EVP messages.  So one time I said, 'Is life one big morality test?'  And there was the EVP word "CON" before test so it was like it became from morality test to morality contest.  Oh, also before I had — the previous year before I went to Oklahoma I had two burning bush experiences right outside my Echo Park condo on two different occasions.  On the hillside and I — and I actually saw each one of them begin.  And I called the fire department because I was worried about the complex catching fire.  So I had two burning bushes.  And this was before the second Bush was elected President.  Plus my street was Clinton Street.  Just to give you an idea of the synchronicity that was happening.  I was — here I was — I was living in Los Angeles.  Across the street from the Angelus Temple.  There was all this Michael synchronicity in my life.  My twin brother Michael.  My first job was as Mickey Rooney's personal assistant working at his talent agency.  And then I became a talent agent.  So there was [my brother] Michael, Mickey — when I went to work for Paramount there were all these people named Michael that worked at Paramount.  There were, like, eight different people in just the marketing department all named Michael, who I was working with.  And — so then one of the next bizarre things that happened — okay, I started researching — I said, 'Oh my goodness, with the burning bushes and everything maybe this means that I'm the reincarnation of Jesus.  So I tried to heal a lame man who used to walk in the morning.  And I — it didn't work.  So I started researching Jesus.  And I found in one of my books by Zecharia Sitchin it said that there was an earlier Christ tale of 'Bel-Marduk.'  And, by the way, my name wasn't Mark Russell Bell at the time.  My friend Marie channeled the Bell last name before I knew about Bel-Marduk [being a past reincarnation of mine evidently].  And so I realized, 'Oh I must be the reincarnation of Bel-Marduk.'  Okay, so then close to home on Sunset Boulevard there was a little antique store called Minnette's Antiques.  I told her I was interested in old Egyptian artifacts.  And she had several because she would personally go overseas and shop for antiques.  And she said, 'Oh I have an amulet you'll like.'  I said, 'Oh I bet it looks like me.'  And guess what?  It looked exactly like me in my early 20s.  Yeah.  And that picture — there's a picture of that in Testament.  So to this day I — okay, so I'm the reincarnation of 'Bel-Marduk.'  Now Bel-Marduk witnessed a nuclear holocaust — which Zecharia Sitchin thought was a nuclear holocaust.  So it almost makes me worried that 'Am I here to try to accomplish the first time, which was to awaken the world spiritually enough to avoid a nuclear holocaust?  Because, as you well know, by looking at the headlines we're on the way.  We're on the way.  But unfortunately the mainstream corporate media [This is where the current version of the interview video begins] does not allow metaphysical content.  It's — it just — not since my book was published.  The only shows that I was interviewed on ("WERE" [EVP?]) were radio shows — paranormal-themed radio shows ("OR" [EVP?]) or 'morning zoo' shows.  Those were the radio shows I did.  I contacted Art Bell to be a guest on his show and his wife called me and was going to book me on the show.  But she asked me — she said [something like] 'Well when he have fans on the show . . .'  I said, 'Well I'm really not — I'm really not a fan of Art's.  Well that wasn't the right thing to say because she said, 'Well . . .' — you know, she withdrew the offer.  So I didn't get to go on "Coast to Coast AM."  

 

[Regarding what happened after my return from Oklahoma] So I began interviewing — so I said, 'I'm going to keep interviewing people.'  So I was interviewing people from my daily life.  I once started interviewing a local shop [owner] — I said I'm going to try to see what — if 'Michael' can bring me lost antique treasures to prove his existence.  So I would — I was looking in — and I found some — I found some unbelievable pieces like, for example, an old painting with a Van Gogh signature.  You know, I just into this — this was in Santa Monica [a huge antique showroom].  I just happened to go in and said, 'Which painting looks best?'  And it was this really abstract piece.  It's nothing like Van Gogh's pieces that you see in Amsterdam.  It was — it was totally different.  On the back of the painting it said "forgery forgery forgery."  So like someone was really upset about — anyway, so I have that in my collection.  I also have a Matisse.  It looked like an original Matisse I bought.  I bought all these really interesting antiques.  So — okay, so I interviewed this one — at one antique store in Hollywood.  His name was Hugh Langtry.  And it turned out he had been the stuntman who had portrayed all of the alien monsters in the "Outer Limits" TV show.  Just by synchronicity.  If that will give you an idea — plus, constantly in my life pennies were a positive — pennies were always a positive sign that I was on the right path.  Dimes and quarters warned me that this is not the right path.  Plus license plates on cars would have a conversation with me.  I mean beyond anything — and I documented this in Testament some of those experiences.  

 

Coley: So when you say they had a conversation with you, like, what does that mean?

 

me: Okay, I'll give you an example from much, much later.  At my local — okay, one of the strange things about my life is that I've never been in an intimate relationship with another person, which is something very, very unusual.  Because I was always writing.  I didn't really — I was always — I always had goals I was pursuing.  It just — I just never met the right person.  So after my experiences I didn't want to be a movie publicist anymore.  I didn't want to distract people by entertainment.  I wanted to be a metaphysical author illuminating, expanding their consciousness.  So I ended up — finally I ended up moving to the valley from Santa Monica.  And I went to work for the school district.  At a high school.  And I would go to the gym three times a week.  Once in a while I'd meet someone at the gym that I thought, 'Well maybe this would be a good personal relationship with me.'  Well on the way home I would see license plates with the — with the letter and letter combination or the letter and number combination "HO" / "H0."  So it's like — yeah.  Well it's like I — I wasn't meant to be in a relationship, I guess.  So I mean — was that a — there were other signs too.

 

I should tell you another part also of the paranormal initiation.  When I came home from Centrahoma I went to my brother's house—which wasn't that far away—for a slide show.  And I remember someone said, "The car next to mine in the parking lot" — or they mentioned the car being a Saturn.   And then Patty at the party said, 'That man ("IS" [EVP?]) was the tour leader.'  And I had various experiences where basically I would go to different people and they would all — they would all talk about the same subject.  Without knowing that they [all] were doing this.  So it's like — I was thinking, 'Well this must be the shared subconscious mind or a 'Thought Conductor' revealing ourselves / Themselves / Herself / Himself via me because as a metaphysical author I was [serving as] a surrogate / everyman for other people.  I guess just like other — like Bel-Marduk maybe once was.  

 

Miya: So I have a question before you move on.  So the Bell Witch — the Bell Witch's powers sound almost identical, from what I've heard, anyways, to the — to this 'Michael' you're explaining.

 

me: I'll read you an excerpt from one of my articles.  [describing this passage:]     

 

Among talking poltergeist cases of preceding epochs, a revealing passage found in The Bell Witch of Middle Tennessee (1930) by Harriet Parks Miller shows an understanding of the "invisible agency of tangible action" that wasn't so precisely explained in other published accounts: "You know, as I've said before, I am anything and everything, here, there and everywhere.  Just now I'm the spirit of an early emigrant . . ."  In the Bell Witch case study book by M. V. Ingram published in 1894, the daughter of one of the main original witnesses in the case said that she'd learned that upon being asked for an explanation of the diverse phenomena, the response of the haunting presence was: "I am all things and anything I want to be; now don't you know what I am?'"  In the case study book of the Isle of Man/'Gef' case The Haunting of Cashen's Gap: A Modern Miracle Investigated (1936) by Harry Price and R. S. Lambert, the haunting presence became identified with a talking mongoose and on other occasions offered such associations as "a ghost in the form of a weasel," "a large stray cat," "the fifth dimension," "the eighth wonder of the world," and "the Holy Ghost."

 

me: These are all in the books.  So I wrote a paper about these parallels that was heard at a 2014 symposium about the 'Gef' case at the Senate House Library at the University of London.  And — but I don't — for some reason poltergeist authors don't seem to know about this correlation.  Okay, when I was in Centrahoma — I'll give you a quote.  This is in Testament.  The mother told me — I was just — she was just talking nonchalantly.

 

"Once I had a little black and white dog that Brenda gave me — an Australian Shepherd.  That was the best little old dog . . . Well, one time it got so full of ticks and everything you find around here that the poor thing couldn't even walk on its hind legs.  Twyla and I were out there and she was picking ticks off of him and Michael hollered, 'HELP ME, MAXINE' — just like he was concerned about it."

 

me: So I didn't — I really wasn't thinking at the time.  I was just interviewing.  When I got home, I said, 'Well that correlates with 'The Bell Witch' case and the 'Gef' case and the other talking poltergeist cases.  So it was like the missing piece of the 'poltergeist puzzle.'  And I've written an article about — several articles about that at my blog.  But — you know, it's — when people — like when I found when I was giving news releases — I was distributing news releases about my experiences.  The mainstream media would not report about it.  I guess they were afraid it might upset people because it wasn't part of the current [established] social consciousness.  So I'm always telling people 'to be wise you must not be concerned with contemporary social consciousness.'  People watch movies, TV shows.  They listen to regulated newscasts.  Well that's not going to give you spiritual wisdom.  So then I — so I profiled all of these various paranormal cases spanning Spiritualism — you name it; of EVP, spirit photographs — for example, this is a book — an old book about spirit photography called Experiments In Psychics [published] in 1939.  Anyone who reads this will immediately know that spirit photography was not a hoax.  It was an authentic — I mean there are many books and I have profiled the books at my website.  So you have all these different cases.  Not only my case but channelers, Spiritualism, EVP, you name it and the mainstream media won't touch it.  

 

Coley: Yeah, I definitely have that — a lot of the stuff that I've picked up on EVPs; on ghost hunting equipment on the paranormal and all of that.  What — what do you think, I guess.  I've had stuff flown across the room and things like that.  When you were talking about poltergeists I missed the part when you were making the connection and I guess the cases that you were referring to.

 

me: Okay, well I think usually in my — I found it's best to go to actual transchanneling cases and let 'Them' explain it.  Okay, for example, there was a medium — a trance medium channeler—they didn't call them 'channeler' back then—named Mrs. J. H. Conant during the 19th Century.  And she's documented to have been the "the channel through which more than ten thousand different spirits . . . sent personal messages to their kindred and friends on earth."  So I'll give you a quotation of "controlling spirit Theodore Parker from April 29, 1869 . . .

 

In the first place, it should be understood that these séances are not controlled at all times by the same spirit, but for each occasion an intelligence is selected best adapted to that occasion.

 

me: So in my article it quotes many, many, many more sentences but that's the main — the main sentiment.  Okay, if you want to know about the correlations and sometimes there's variations between channeling cases.

 

Coley: Definitely.  Well, I grew up — like my — my grandmother — they had seances.  I was in the other room.  I grew up a channeler.  I don't necessarily like that — a medium.  I don't like them to get that close to me so I do understand a piece of that.  I'm just curious as to, like — I'm trying to put it all together and then how it — like for your — what you call your 'initiation' and where, you know,  some of that.  You said you do channel but you do not like to?

 

me: (overlapping) No.

 

Coley: No.

 

me: No, I do not channel.  I do not.  Well let me first explain the differences of channeling.  This is a quotation of 'Lazaris' through Jach Pursel  — extensively documented case.  He [Lazaris] said:

We know there are those who claim to be able to teach you to channel.  Some can.  However, there is channeling and there is channeling.  You must differentiate.

There is subjective channeling.  Each of you can learn to channel FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT — FOR YOUR OWN GROWTH.  Each person who is creative is actually or potentially channeling at least their innate or developed creativity!

. . . Then there is objective channeling which is like the work that we and some others do.  You cannot take a class or even a "home study" course to develop this form of channeling.  Edgar Cayce and Jane Roberts, who were both objective channels like Jach, did not seek to do this work.  On a very deep level they gave permission, of course.  They did not consciously learn how to channel.  They were chosen — it just happened to them.

Subjective channeling — for your own growth — can be taught.  Objective channeling —

 
I added: Such as trance channeling and there are some conscious channelers.
 

for the benefit of all those who are touched — cannot be taught.  Hopefully, we make ourselves clear.

    
me: Conscious channelers include the late Ryuho Okawa.

 

Coley: . . . I'm not channeling myself.  I'm channeling a spirit . . . 

 

me: Do you hear a voice or how do you channel . . . ?

 

Coley:  It's, like, in control and that's why I don't like it.  Like, my head went  — The first time I found out I remember the spirit — the lady's, like, 'Do you see my spiritual guide Ramoose [phonetic spelling]?  And then my head was just back and my eyes were fluttering in the back of my head.  So I don't  — and I can feel them coming in too close.  When they do, I don't like that.  I'm not very comfortable with that.  But they  — they take full control.  [Note: the most well-known and extensively documented channeling cases involve people who are completely comfortable in allowing 'The Guides' to be in control of them for interludes.]  

 

me: Have you made any videos of you when you do that?

 

Coley: I don't  — like I said, I don't like to do it.  My family saw it.  When I was 16 but I have and I can tell when — there's a struggle.  I feel almost like a struggle of something coming and trying but your facial features change.  Everything changes about you when you go into, like, that channeling mode.  I can do it.  I don't like to do it.  

 

me: Well some people refer to that [conscious channeling] as a 'light trance' case.  I mean it's just a matter of words.  I mean  — okay, for example.  Okay, I'm going to read you a quote from something that Elon Musk recently said when he was on the Joe Rogan podcast. 

 

''There are a lot of negative things in the world.  There are a lot of terrible things that are happening all over the world.  All the time.  There are lots of problems that need to get solved.  So lots of things that are, yeah, that are miserable and kind of get you down.  But the — life cannot just be about solving one miserable problem after another — can't — that can't be the only thing."

 

I'm quoting him verbatim because it shows his thinking process.  He then said: 

 

"There need to be — there need to be things that inspire you — that make you glad to be — to wake up in the morning and be part of humanity.''

 

When you — when you really look at the words you see the ideas that are coming into his brain from whatever words you want to call it.  The 'Higher Selves in a state of Oneness'?  But — if — something I constantly remind people is — the world would be very — perhaps be very different today if metaphysical and spiritual subjects such as my case, Spiritualism, etc., were not suppressed from the mainstream commercial media.  Because they're just after — I guess now it's just a matter of clicks.  How many pageviews they can get.  They don't really want to educate anyone and they're afraid of anyone who says something different from — from anyone else.  So — I — main — for example, Google search results.  I witnessed my blog lose its standing on Google some years ago.  Back in 2016 — several years ago.  I wrote about it in my blog article.  I remember — I don't remember the exact date but I witnessed all of a sudden my blog was banished.  And when you looked up the subjects in my blog you were [now] getting skeptical reports.  You were getting basically disinformation and misinformation.  

 

So that's the reason I've been — I promoted various articles at X.com to make up for that.  And, you know, it's hard to say — maybe the  A.I. algorithms will change in the near future.  But, you know, it's very — it's very complicated so — okay, so this will be very illuminating for you about UFOlogy.  Christopher K. Mellon wrote in a short post recently [at X.com]:

During our Disclosure Forum in the U.S. Senate this week, Elizabeth Vargas of NewsNation did a terrific job of highlighting the critical importance of UAP as a national security issue.  There are many important dimensions to this subject, but none more urgent for Congress and the Administration than understanding what is operating in our airspace.

me: So listen to my reply:

 

If someone isn't intellectually and emotionally honest enough to deal with extensively documented trance channeling cases (today called shamanism in regard to past human societies), however can one instruct about UFOlogy / UAP?  Article Link: "Channeling' Phenomena Evidence for Scientists, Journalists and Anyone Uninformed or Misinformed (Including 16 Example Videos)"  Also Available: "UFOs / UAP / Space People / UFOlogy Index of Linked Evidentiary Articles" 

me: So I've been replying to various people, giving them a link to the Index so they'll know — they'll have access to information that they didn't have access to before, including an instance of physical proof of extraterrestrial life that one of the contactees was given.  And so far not one single one [of them] has spoken [out publicly] about the evidence.  

 

Coley: What evidence did you have?  So you spo[ke] — Miya and I are both contactees.  What type of evidence did they give you . . .

 

me: Okay, there's a famous contactee.  One of the first if not the very first named Truman Bethurum and he published in his book Aboard a Flying Saucer pictures of two letters in foreign languages that were given to him by the spaceship captain.  One was in French and the other was in Chinese.  He could not put them into any kind of perspective.  He just — you know he just that was 'Oh that — isn't that interesting?'  Well someone like me who knows all about the different letters in different cases.  ("LIKE" [EVP?])  For example, Instrumental Transcommunication there's letters.  In the Madame Blavatsky case there's letters from the Mahatmas.  There's all kind of letters in Spiritualism.  I mean that's the reason They chose letters to give him because this was telling you — and they also spoke about 'The God Force.'  You know, all the most famous contactees who I profile in blog articles: Truman Bethurum, Orfeo Angelucci, Arthur Shuttlewood and Daniel Fry all correlate in terms of their quotations about omnipresent Spirit.  So — but how does this information get out?  That's the problem.  So you can learn.  You can learn about the afterlife.  One of my websites is an Index of different subjects called paranormalpeople.org [I should've said paranormalpeople.net.] . . .  

 

*

 

Having last left off typing this interview video transcript at the 123.55 minute point, I discovered that the four @ColeyUFO posts sharing the interview with me on X.com were taken down during the afternoon on Wednesday, July 1st.  I sent Coley a new Email message, as shown below.

 

Hi Coley,
 
I'm upset to see that the interview video featuring myself has been removed from YouTube along with your X.com posts that had been sharing the video.  I would like to know the explanation so that the matter can be addressed.
 
I hope this isn't because of my comments about the Google search algorithm as Google owns YouTube.  My other recent podcast interview at YouTube has 1,519 views to-date.  Having studied the situation of 'shadowbanning,' I can tell you that one way to change a disappointing status is to publicize any difficulties being experienced.  If you've noticed that view counts for your livestreams have dwindled, this indicates that already your content is algorithmically considered as being inappreciable for being made available on a wide basis to viewers.  My promoting the video at X.com may have helped to expand your number of viewers and subscribers.  I enjoyed talking to you and Miya and remain willing to answer any further questions that you may have through a follow-up interview.
 
Please let me know what is the basis for what has happened so that I may decide what is the best way to handle this situation.
 
Thank you for your consideration,
 
Mark Russell Bell 

 

(7/27/26 Update: Instead of using in this article the YouTube AI-generated transcript that I copied and pasted on June 29, I began completing this transcript while listening to the redacted 1:21:23 new version of the podcast interview.)

 

 

Here Is the Concluding Portion of the Interview Video Transcript

 

me: One of my websites is an index of different subjects called paranormal people.org (actually paranormalpeople.net) and you can read all the — see all the different evidence for each different subject.  But the mainstream, you have to try to get the mainstream to talk about these things.  I'm hoping some of the ufologists who I contacted — there were there was around 220, you know, either media reporters who who've been reporting about the government releases or the ufologists themselves — to try to encourage people to talk about this.  So —

 

Coley: Who have you been in contact with?

 

me: You know, I — let's just say all of the major ufologists at x.com.  You know, I — I don't want to name anyone in particular.

 

Coley: Well there's a government like . . . you just have to be careful.  There's some that are government.  There's some that are —

 

me: (overlapping) Well, you know, I've never been careful about who I contact.  I've contacted like — [a] couple years ago there was another UFO board for researchers. I contacted each one individually either via Email . . . [or LinkedIn.]

 

Coley:  . . . I'm just saying that the information you get you might not be getting a very good, like, construct of it.  There's like, you know, CIA counter intelligence . . .

 

me: No, I know.  No, I'm just I'm supplying them with information.

 

Coley: Okay.

 

me: And hoping that they'll share it.  So, you know, I don't worry about the men in black.  Even though once — once back in the — after I came back from Centrahoma, I did have a 'man in black' experience which I did think was government agents once.  So, I was thinking then that maybe everyone who comes back from Centrahoma is being followed up on. So, you know, to this day, I all I know is that I was driving and I noticed these people following me.  So —

 

Coley: What year was that in?  I know before the Internet, there was a lot of the Men in Black stuff.  I've — I've had cars follow me, too.  But it's not been as of recently it seems like with the last ten years.

 

me: This was after I came back from Oklahoma.  So, I think it was in 1995.  I think it was either 1995 or early 1996.  So what I did — I went into a — it was in — it was in the Silver Lake district.  So I went into Mayfair Market to buy a few things and here I'm at the checkout stand and the two came running in.  Our eyes met.  One of them started to pretend like he was making a telephone call without dialing anything.  And then meanwhile, all of a sudden, there was a — a several logs of wood right beside me at the cashier stand. And one of the managers was saying, "Who left this here?"  Well, I knew it was a materialization, but you know I mean — and this is this is the kind of life that I — I've been living all these years.  So, you know, I —

 

Coley:  So who's in — who's in contact with you?  Why do you think that they're — like you're talking about pretty extreme negative entities?  Like, are they — is that who you mostly have contact with?  I guess they're — how directly do you do you still hear them?  Do they still talk to you?

 

me: Well, what happened to me is — let me see if I don't have the — I don't know if I have the dates right on hand.  Oh, here it is.  Okay.  Okay.  So, this is from one of my blog articles — it will give you — tell you exactly what —what happened to me. 

   

After the good news shared in Testament was pervasively ignored or suppressed for 25 years, on the last day of April 2022 transcendental communication made known what became comprehended as signifying that a transition was completed to a new phase of Earth life — continuing each day is the 'Devil Phase' of Earth life due to a 'polarity' reversal that has led to a 'God Alter-Ego' or 'altered Ego' due to the state of mass consciousness on the earthly plane of existence.  [article links: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13]  

 

me: And I did a whole series of articles about this.  I did at least 13 articles all about — okay so I started a journal blog and this happened while I was keeping my journal blog.  I didn't — what happened — I had never really heard — I only had a few occasions where I heard disembodied voices but after — after I started keeping a journal, the devilish voices all started.  In fact, tonight, while . . . 

 

Coley: Say that again.  The — the Devil voices started.  Is that what you said?

 

me: Negative polarity voices.  For example, tonight while we've been talking, I've been hearing solar plexus phenomena grumblings and rumblings.  While talking to you . . .

 

Coley:  . . . you're getting grumblings and rumblings like in your —

 

me: Well, no — from my solar plexus [area].  Okay, this was my latest phase of (or "OF" [EVP]) of the phenomena.  It was the last day of April 2022 when basically the voices just told me about the polarity reversal.  And — okay so what I've done in my articles is show how all the famous channelers have spoken about these polarities.  In fact Edgar Cayce had mentioned a pole — a shift of the poles.  [He mentioned: "When there is the shifting of the poles; or a new cycle begins."]  Well, he didn't mean this type of shift of the polls [shift of Earth's axis].  At least people didn't know that he meant this type of shift.  Or perhaps he did.  But they [channeled entities] all talk about God being bipolar, having two poles, negative and positive.  So I'm always telling people, 'Always think, is this action going to be negative or is this action going to be positive?'  Because that would determine your state in the ascended realm of life once your current incarnation is completed.

 

Coley: So what do they — what kind of things do they say to you when they come?  They just kind of grumble or they growl or how do you communicate?  Do you think that it's . . .

 

me: Well, in my advanced project [for advanced readers] — it's called My Life With Michael journal blog.  I literally —

 

Coley: So you're very close to what you think is the spirit of the bell spirit, right?  Is that correct?  I'm just trying to — I'm trying to conceptualize all this.  So I — was that fair enough to say?

 

me: Remember what I said about the Archangel Michael being a symbolic Name —

 

Coley: Right.

 

me: — The Christ Spirit.

 

Coley: (overlapping) . . . of the Michael spirit — the Michael spirit that has been communicating with you.

 

me:  That was — 'Michael' is just a convenient name but since the voices are continuously changing — for example one of the prominent voices during this phase was — just was — was just like [that of] 'HAL the computer' in [the movie] "2001."  ("WHICH" [EVP?])  Okay, when it first started I thought, 'Oh my God, maybe I'm hearing voices in my head.  But once when I was taking a bath the voices were muffled so I realized, 'No, these are external — external voices and plus solar plexus.  Now the solar plexus one is more like a 'guide' voice because it's one dominant one.  It's become one dominant one who's sort of a mentally retarded grumbler / growler.  He's always saying things like, "YOU DON'T LOVE ME."  Or "I HATE YOU."  Or "I LOVE YOU."  I mean, I worked in special ed.  Okay, so after my Hollywood career was over, I worked — I went to work for the school district and I worked in Special Education.

 

Coley: Um-hmm.

 

me: And a lot of the students in Special Ed. remind me of this one guy who is my 'guide' now.  And you get — the one thing they all have in common is complete emotional honesty.  Special needs children are — they have to be honest and direct to get their needs met.  And for some reason this (or "THIS" [EVP]) my solar plexus guide takes on this form.  He also sounds like one of my ex-doctors.  So, you know, I'm — that's why I'm always calling — you know, I really — it's — it's as I mentioned in those quotes before, 'whatever is the most beneficial personality of the moment is the one that will manifest for you.'  So if people think aliens are demons or if demons are — might possess you, that's very well what you might get.  A negative polarity entity because of your own — this is — because this is your own feelings and this is what you believe in so this is what you're going to attract.

 

Coley: Have you ever been possessed by some of these things?

 

me: Okay.  Well, you have to remember in the early annals of possession, there was good poss  [possession] — there was angelic possession and demonic possession cases.

 

Coley: Let's just say demonic possession.

 

me: Not demonic but angelic.  For exam[ple], okay, once when I came home from Oklahoma I was — one day — one day I was — I was feeling very euphoric and I started calling up my friends and telling them who they metaphorically were the reincarnation of.  Uh, I called up like Fiona, my friend Fiona, and I said, "Well, you're the re — the reincarnation of — what's her name [ Morgana le Fay] from the — from — from King Arthur and Merlin."  Okay, my — my friend Marie was the reincarnation of the Virgin Mary.  I called the people from work.  And I called up one — one lady and I told her, "You're the reincarnation of Mary Magdalene."

 

Coley: Were you just teasing them or is this something that's coming to you?  Or —

 

me: Well, see they — what happened is I tried to — Paramount was related to Simon and Schuster [book publishing company] and I wanted them to publish my book.  So, I was trying to get Sherry Lansing] to help me and I dropped off my manuscript in her office at Paramount.  Well, anyway, I got called in by the head of security to be in an interview.  And I actually posted that interview on my — my website, but I don't know.  I just was trying to get a public — get — get their attention.  But then after I was doing this, I was sitt[ing] — I remember I was sitting in my Echo Park condo and all of a sudden it felt like someone stepped out of me and I thought — this is after I was telling people who they were the reincarnation of — and "Oh no."  So I said, "Oh my god, what if this means I'm I've been possessed."  So I — I was scared.  I was really, really scared.  I called my twin brother Mike.  I said, "I want to die.  I think I was, you know — I don't remember my exact word[s], but I have that transcript in my book  [Tape #13, Side #1].  So, him, his friend James, and my friend Fiona said, "We have to help Mark.  We have to help Mark."  So I said — [after they told me:] "You need to have a nice rest and relaxation."  So I said, "Yes, you're right.  You're right."  So all of a sudden, like the — very early the next day — an ambulance drives up.  They're here and they come knock on my door with an ambulance to take me — [to] what I found out was a psychiatric hospital emergency care ward.

 

So I said [to myself], "Well, obviously Michael wants me to have this experience, so I'm willing to do it."  So I — I signed myself in.  Now, they told me I wouldn't have to pay through — through my Blue Cross [health insurance plan].  It — it would be all paid for.  So there was one page that said: "Do you agree to be responsible for our charges?"  And I did not sign that because the man who they — who had escorted my friends said it was all taken care of.

 

So once I was there, everything started happening.  People — other people around me started channeling; the — the young man in the next bed — next to mine started howling like a demonic — like a demon.  And so I was scared that they were going to think it's me so I said, "You're snoring."  I woke him up and said you're — "You were snoring" to stop it.  But one woman would go in and out of consciousness and she'd say — she started channeling an alien who was talking about crops on his planet.  I mean this was — and this is what all of the staff was watching.  So finally I was only there for a few days because I think they wanted to get — I think they wanted me out of there.  So they said, "Okay, well we're releasing you, but you have to start psychotherapy uh with — with a psychiatrist."  I said, "Okay, fine.  I just want to get out of this hellhole."

 

So, I actually ended up going to see Judith Orloff, who was then writing her first book.  Uh, she's a psychic psychiatrist.  And I have a few of those transcripts in the book.  After — after — she really — I mean you know I — this — as you can see I'm totally normal in every way except I've had these bizarre experiences.  So she didn't know what to do.  So finally I — I stopped going to see her and I started going to a hypno — hypnotherapist.  And I myself could not go into a trance.  ("TO" "YOU KNOW" [EVP?])

 

He — I remember the hypnotherapist started asking me about previous lives and the dates he asked about were exactly the same as two cases that I — I'd researched for a play that I wrote and — and what else?  A book that I had planned to do at the time: Catherine Cadière of the ancient regime in France and Julia Pastana who was a half Bigfoot / half Mexican Indian woman in the days of PT Barnum. [article]  So those are the dates.  So I said, "Well, if I'm a reincarnation of anyone, those are the two who I'm the reincarnation of."  So — but I to this day I have no idea.  I know the 'Bel-Marduk' is — is the one that — I don't think I really was [the two others] — I think those were just, you know, I don't know.  I mean, who — do we — we don't really know what our past reincarnations are.  But in my case I do have that amulet that shows me wearing one of those big, big caps.  And some people think, well, you know, maybe they're disguising the reptilian — the 'coneheads' with those big, big caps.  And I — I don't know.  I don't know.  It's a mystery.

 

Coley: And you said you had a twin brother, Michael.  Now what does he — is he — does he see any of this?  Is — are they communicating with him at all or what — what role does he play in it?

 

me: Well he lives in Ran — in Rancho Mirage and I speak to him on the phone for it's too flaw — it's too far for me to drive because I've had — I have had some health problems since 2017.  So I speak to him on the telephone.  He has — he — I think once he thought he heard some of the solar plexus phenomena, but he — like he's different from me.  He, like I want to know what's happening in the world.  I want to know what's happening in Iran.  He doesn't want to know.  He — he doesn't — it's bad news.  He doesn't want to know about bad news.  So I said, "Well, Michael, you've got to learn about — this is the reason you're on Earth is to learn about what life is like when — when you have freedom of choice.  Because as in another channeling case, Earth is the only planet we're told where there is such freedom of choice.  And the reason we're here is to create an identity for ourselves."  I think you — you're probably familiar with that case because it's been getting some publicity recently.  Have you heard of 'the Council of Nine'?  'Tom'?  Okay.

 

Coley: Yes.  I — yes, I'm very familiar with that.  Yes.

 

me: Okay.  Well, okay.  This — I'll read to you one of the — one of — this is — this is from 'Tom' of 'The Council of Nine.'  [I've used here the exact written material that I did my best to clearly read aloud.]

 

We are nine principles of the Universe, yet together we are one.  We are separate and one at the same time.  Each represents a portion of energy, knowledge, wisdom, love, kindness, technology, and continuity, and each principle applies itself until each portion of a spiral is composed of all that is important to bring complete understanding to each atom, and so one, until it becomes one with us.  There are in actuality multiplications and more, but in principle there are nine.

. . . Love is God.  And it is love that creates the energy which feeds God - and makes God.

In your world there are religious groups that say that God is within.  And this is true because there is a portion of divinity within each individual.

 
When these energies that you call negative upon your planet Earth attempt to destroy, attempt to control others, it is because they are in competition with God, the one Creator.  For in their cells they know the divinity within them, and their personality holds forth, and they then attempt to be God.  It is sad, yes.

 
God created all, and that which became the negative went in competition with God:

  
me: [I commented here:]  And that — I guess that would be the — 'the negative polarity.'  Any — like when you have anyone who is violent, anyone who lies, anyone who victim[izes] — anyone who takes away someone else's freedom of choice is accruing negative karma.  So this is how 'Tom' explains it.

[He does not represent them.  I will attempt to explain.]  You are a gardener.  As you know in your planting, as you plant each seed with equal love, with equal nurture, with all that is necessary for it to grow strong and straight, in a manner of purity, there are some that are weaker and some that are strong.  There are those that you plant that become stronger to the point that they then may strangle others, is this not so?  Then you must remove, weed, transplant.  But the Creator does not weed, does not interfere in free will, as you do with your plants.  Then those who attempt to strangle and to take over others are fed by the energies of what you call negative, as we are fed by love, and they then begin to strangle all.  They go in competition with that that planted it, that that created it.

 

me: So, and of course in my articles — I mean, just look up 'polarities' and you'll see what all the different  channel[ers have channeled] — and if you want I can even probably read you what they said about the different polarities.  But all the famous channeling cases talk about polarities.  I mean, they actually use the — the word — polarities and polarity.  So in my case I had nothing but — I was — I felt each day elation because I was doing — bringing this wonderful message to everyone but . . . I began to feel frustrated that nobody would ever — the mainstream media would — wouldn't pick up about it.  I really couldn't share it.  So the result is people watching TV and movie shows and listening to pop music and playing computer games — complete waste of time.  It's all a complete waste of time.  And this brought about the polarity reversal of life on Earth.  Until it changes.  Back.

 

Coley: Well, the Council of Nine is — and the prophecy that is to come is that nine individuals or however you want to put it will come together and raise the frequency.  They're here to change the frequency.  Correct? 

 

me: Well, look — look at the [lack of] attention that's been given to that book, The Only Planet of Choice.  You never see anything about it.  You never — you never — and now on X.com they have had some recent posts.  Not all of them have been accurate but it has been getting some attention recently and I've replied and given them links to my articles about the case.  But —

 

Coley: There — there's more attention drawn to it because there's some something that's supposed to occur between now and '27 — 2027.

 

me: Well, you also have to remember we all experience life on an individual basis.  So people who let's say get murdered —I mean that's their — that's their cataclysm.  I mean this is ongoing.  So it's hard.  I mean when you look at the prophecies and they [channeled entities] even say it's impossible to date events because there's not just one future.  There's many different futures and it's up to personal choices which ones we select on an individual and collective basis.  So I mean that's — that's the reason I keep telling people: "Always think before you don't react emotionally when you're upset about something — you see people bashing and fighting and killing.  Don't react — react intellectually instead of emotionally.  You must be in control.  Like one famous channeled entity was 'Yada di Shi'ite' and that's what he would tell people: always be — you must be in control of your emotions.

 

Coley: Miya, can you hear?

 

Miya: Yeah, I can.

 

me: (overlapping) Can you hear me?

 

Miya: . . . Uh oh.

 

me:  Can you — you can hear me, can't you, Miya?

 

Miya:  I can hear you.  Yeah.  So do you think channeling is dangerously close to being possessed?

 

me: Well, I've done a series of articles about — remember it's only a word.  We're all — every single person alive is the possession of 'The Only One.'  We're all — but see the people in the — in the superstitious ways who are scared of demons and worried about demons — well guess what's going to manifest.

 

Miya: Yeah.  No I agree with that.  The more you put energy into something the more that you're going to get that energy back.  I totally agree.

  

me: So I mean it's all a matter of how much you — how much you're aware of and how much you know.  So . . . (pause) I don't know — I mean the voices have never told me something like 'Kill yourself' or 'Kill someone else.'  Now some people — okay, people know today that if they blame — if they say, 'Oh I heard a voice that said this'; that they can get — they have an excuse for doing what they do.  But it doesn't excuse what they did because they should just think, 'Oh, well that was a bad voice.'  You don't do — you don't obey them just because you hear a voice.  So they're lying.  And that's the reason people don't understand.  I've done articles about voice hearing, too.  So . . . (pause)

 

I don't know.  It's — so I have 820 [837 at the end of July 2026] articles and each one profiles — I've got articles about heart transplants.  I mean you name it.  Okay, these are — these are some of the famous channelers I — I profile:

 

*Ray Brown / Paul

*Thomas Jacobson / Dr. Peebles

*Jay-Z Knight / Ramtha

*Riz Mirza, who all (or "WHO ALL" [EVP]) —who has — who has channeled hundreds of different entities including 'The Echelon' (or 'The Friends') extraterrestrial speakers

*Jach Pursel / 'Lazaris' 

*Kevin Ryerson, whose entities include 'John,' 'Atun-Re' and 'Tom MacPherson'

*Paul Selig is another conscious channeler.  ("YOU SHOULD" [EVP?])  If you're not familiar with him, you should look at my articles about him because he's — he's another conscious channeler.

*And Dante Starshine ("WHO" [EVP]) channels the 'Pleiadian Council.' 

 

Those are all — are cases that I profiled at my blog.  It's very hard to learn about them in the mainstream.

 

Coley: So, are you familiar with the work of James Gilliland?  [The name as spoken doesn't include the 'd' at the end.]

 

me:  Well you have to remember the cases I choose are the ones that you have case study books available and transcripts and videos.  So, no, I'm not aware of that particular individual, but I wouldn't be if there are not any books for me —

 

Coley: Oh, there are books.  Yeah, he's got — he owns ECETI Ranch.  Yeah, he's one — he has — he communicates directly with them.  Yeah.

 

me: Okay.  Well, is he a recent one or —

 

Coley: No, he's been around for a while.  I think he said he's been doing this for like 50 years now.

 

me: Okay.  Well, no.  I mean he's not one that I — I know about.

 

Coley: Oh, sure.

 

me: So, but um I — I encourage you to do a video of yourself channeling because — and I'll post it on my blog just (or "JUST" [EVP]) — just to see what comes through.

 

Coley: I don't — I don't like them getting that cl[ose].  But Amy — Amy Murphy, she does the mirror scrying.  She's — she's really good at it.  If I had a team around then.  Like I said, it's very uncomfortable to have somebody, like, coming — you know, you — you really have to trust it.  And I just don't trust it as much as, you know, to have something coming through like that.  

 

me: Yeah, I was talking with Miya about that.  I don't know.  I'm — it's — it's hard to explain.  Okay (or "OKAY" [EVP]) so my twin brother who I love dearly, he just — he's a member of the Academy of Motion for Arts and Sciences.  He's just — I mean he reads some of my articles sometimes but I really don't — I think he doesn't really want to know all the details [be]cause he's like — like so many people, he's been so indoctrinated by the mainstream media that that's where he feels comfortable.  And I encourage him to read my articles.  Hopefully he's getting some of it but —

 

Coley: I don't like necessarily — I'd go and I let them — I mean I can hear them.  I talk to them as a medium.  They come and — they come to me.  I just really don't want them to talk for me.

 

me: Well, let me give you — Okay, well let me — Okay, so when I talk to my brother on the phone, I'll ask him a question.  He'll immediately express the thought that comes into his mind.  And it's always — it's usually right.  And this is — and this is basically how I've been experiencing life.  People spontaneously are expressing thoughts — just I see bounce into their head.  So it's almost as if — I mean it's — basically it's proof of omnipresent spiritual Oneness.  And this omnipresent spiritual Oneness is experiencing life as every single unit of consciousness.  Every animal, every thinking organism is an iota of 'All That Is' / 'The God Force,' 'The Only One' — whatever word you want to use.  And when we make our transition to the ascended realm there is — there is nothing hidden.  There is nothing — some of my articles talk about what — what people representing the ascended realm tell you what happens in the afterlife.  They can — you basically can learn anything you want about anyone.  So it's something we'll all be in eventually.

 

Coley: Yeah, there'll be no hiding then.  So what do — how do they communicate with you then?  If you — if you're not — you don't channel them directly.  How do you feel that they communicate with you?  Or do you just follow the work of other channelers?

 

me: Okay, it's through — it's through people's — Okay, for example, my brother — through his subconscious mind he's expressing thoughts that — that is being passed [spontaneously] — Okay, the thoughts that we have come from an ultimate Source, however you want to call it.  Our brains are like transmitters.  So, you know — so I mean, we're not — I mean, we (or "WE" [EVP]) — we're not conscious [of this process].  We're not trance channelers but we're all experiencing life with the thoughts that come into our mind.  For example, I know many different creative people in the Hollywood film community.  And what you think, for example, is a director's work, there's a lot of variables that goes into that work.  Like for example, one of the — one of the — okay I — one of the press guests I wrote was for "The Godfather, Part III."  Francis Ford Coppola once said you never know when a movie is going to take spark because there are so many different contributions.  Not until the editing room do you really know if something's really going to take spark.  This — for example the [movie] "Ghost" is a good example of that.  I had no idea it was going to be a blockbuster hit when I wrote the press get production information.  My — my first two assignments — my first two was "The Untouchables" and "Fatal Attraction" as a freelancer.  And the expectations were high but when I saw "Fatal Attraction" it had a totally different ending that didn't work.  So you have to remember — okay — okay, for example, me, I wanted to be a screenwriter.  It never happened because that was not my path in life.  It wasn't meant to be.  God only knows we don't need more escapism.  I mean, we don't need — we need illumination.  So — and just as I said that word, you turn[ed] on the light.  I mean, it looks like it's light anyway.  [Her microphone was iridescent when she returned after a hiatus away due to a technical glitch.] 

 

me: But um you're there.  Okay, so I don't know if the — the technical problems are caused by them or not.  I don't know.  But — It's been hard.

 

Coley: When you said before that they were growling and like what was it?  Was it coming from your end or how did this significant?  I'm just curious.

 

me: Okay, this is — okay, this is my solar plexus phenomena voice [manifestation].  God knows I would not want my 'guide' (or 'Guide') to express in this way.  But, okay, so the main message has been, "DO YOU LOVE ME?"  I guess I'm supposed to share that [Message] with the world.  God is asking, "Do you love me?"  Your life on earth is a chance to show you love me through doing moral, goodly / Godly things for others.  That's how you have a chance to prove your love to 'All That Is.'  And it's a strange way of being expressed but if you have — if you do know students —

 

Coley: So why do you think that they're your solar plexus growl at you then?

 

me: Well remember this — I'm not — they're not going to tell me anything that — because I'd quote it.  They're just expressing emotions.  They're expressing Their — Okay, there was just a little — 

 

Coley: I mean they're mad like they're growling like —? 

 

me: Okay, I just heard a little (I imitated the groan).

 

Coley: I'm just trying to understand.

 

me: Well, no — exactly.  Okay.  This is the way the emotions are expressed.  You know exactly what — Okay, if someone says — Okay, what — okay, when I hear the expression "I HATE YOU," that usually — it usually has a reverse meaning that 'You aren't like everybody else.'  So "I HATE YOU" because I love you because you're not like everybody else [during 'The Devil' phase of Earth life].  You know, it's — it's — I can only report it.  So — so in my website — it's called My Life with [Michael] Journ[al] — mylifewithmichael.org.  It's my journal blog where I —

 

Coley: Does Michael ever like leave you messages?  Does he ever, like, — I mean do you — do you have any sort of history of —

 

me: . . . (overlapping) My interpretation is that 'Michael' is speaking to me through the consciousness of every other person with whom I interact.  Feeding the — He's — the thoughts are all coming from the ultimate Source based on their path in life and how far they['ve] progressed. 

 

Coley: They — they don't tell you to do things to people or things like that?

 

me: No. 

 

Coley: Is it more like negative or positive, I guess?

 

me: Well — 

 

Coley: When you're talking about 'poltergeist' I mean that could go quite in a few different areas.

 

me: This only — okay, this only [continuous voice phenomena] started during this phase.  I never, ever — it only started during this phase, which you know what this phase is called.

 

Coley: Sure.

 

me: It's really hard to pigeonhole.  That's the reason I did — I (or "I" [EVP]) — when I started my journal blog, I didn't know this was going to happen.  It started while I was doing the journal blog.  So — (A solar plexus utterance suddenly reverberated from below my head as heard here at 1:01:03)  Okay, just in my throat.  Did you hear that?

 

Coley: Um-huh. 

 

me: Did you hear that gurgling?

 

Coley: Yes.

 

me: That was it.  That's the 'guide' (or 'Guide').  That's my 'guide.' 

 

Coley: Well, it sounded like it was growling.  Like it — so when that happened — 

 

me: Exactly.

 

Coley: Okay.

 

me: (overlapping) He was letting you — He was giving you an example of how He expresses himself emotionally.

 

Coley: Um-huh?

 

me: I just got a tap.  By the way, I also get taps.

 

Coley: Okay . . . 

 

me: Okay, it used to be — it used to be 'yes' on the left and 'no' on the right.  But ever since the polarity reversal it's now reversed.

 

Coley: So you're getting mirror image. 

 

me: Yes.

 

Coley: Um-huh.  Interesting.

 

me: (overlapping) I just got — I just got the 'no' tap, which is really a 'yes' tap now after the reversal.  So I mean — so can you — So you — you're knowledgeable about some of these things.

 

Coley: Yes.

 

me: Can you imagine what somebody who does — has no knowledge when they hear this what they think?  Can you imagine?  I mean, this is what I've been dealing with. 

 

Coley: I grew up like that.  My mom wanted to call a priest.  I — I get it.  I do.  I get that fear.  I never — like I said, I have never and I do not allow them to come very close because I do not — sometimes they trick, sometimes they, you know, they have negative effects.  Like I don't want that.

 

me: Okay, well Silver Birch is another channeled entity, who channeled through Maurice Barbanell and he said that everyone has a spirit guide assigned —

 

Coley: Yes.

 

me: — to us in life.  So if you understand that, you have to remember there's no reason for fear because you have a spirit guide who's always with you.  (This blog article provides an example of how a channeler can have various guiding entities: "Trance Healer Autobiography: A Mere Grain of Sand")

 

Coley: I've — I've also taken care of possession cases where I've seen them slowly go in and take over somebody's life and it's very scary when you — you see that and you work with people it's their — everything's a mess, you know.  That's what they feed on.

 

me: I think — when you were away I mentioned to Miya that every single person on Earth is a possession of 'All That Is' / 'The Only One' so usually if you look — okay I've done a series — I started a series of articles on 'possession' cases at my blog and you can check.  There were fairly recent articles and I go into — I (or "I" [EVP]) — explaining exactly what's happening.  I started watching a live streamer named John who's at the Hyphonix [handle] livestreamer and he's actually showing the symptoms of demonic possession when he — when he when he does his YouTube videos.  And I'm trying — and usually he's — when he's not doing his pranking, he's the nice[est; I put aside the thought because he has been becoming more obsessive recently yet among his loyal viewers:] everyone loves him.  His — his livestream audience loves him — adores him because he's a very loving man.  But as soon as he starts getting — wanting his video clips, you can see — he even talked about feeling — and anyway, I don't want to quote him unless I quote it exactly, but I've been trying to encourage him to do a video series based on my articles um to help him break away from the negative polarity.

 

[The quotation that I couldn't recall verbatim is quoted in one article after one night I'd observed John declare: "You know, that just gave me a real f***ing warm feeling in my stomach of pure evil."] 

 

me: (cont'd) So that's — I'm — still got my fingers crossed that that will come into being once he sees that I'm not so scary [be]cause he's — he's scared of me now.  [humorously:] Who isn't?  So I don't know — I mean, you know, it's — that's the reason I document in so many articles, my book, mylifewithmichael.org / my journal blog because I know people are going to find it difficult to believe, to say the least.

 

Coley: I don't think it's difficult maybe or necessary to believe but to understand and [determine] what role Michael still plays; like is Michael bringing you forward; like is Michael controlling the ship here or — 

 

me: Michael is 'Christ Consciousness.'

 

Coley: Okay.  But is — what?  Let's put all of that aside because nobody really knows until you, like, I mean they can be trickery, they can be whatever.  But have you ever had maybe —

 

me: Well, if you — if you look at my specific experiences and 'connect the dots.'

 

Coley: Um-huh. 

 

me: I'm just — this is — I'm sharing you what I myself have been what I've learned from — from all of my various experiences.  And there are many, many I haven't — I haven't even talked about.  You know it's — again, people who are — who believe in demons probably will attract that guide because that's — that's what you believe in.  Now if you believe an angelic guide is going to come to you, that's probably what will manifest.  In my case, I can't choose.

 

Coley: But what you're with Michael, like, and — and growling and — and guides because usually guides when they cross unless you're dealing with a low density like.

 

me: Well, you have to remember there's also psychic voices, too.  [I should have specified 'externalized']  It's just that —

 

Coley: Well, can you have them tap?  I mean like could you, like, maybe — like while we're here — like is, is Michael, like, can he communicate?

 

me: . . . I experience tapping.  I don't know if that's necessarily — I mean, you have to remember there's different things happening so it's hard to interlink — I can just tell you what I experience and — and if you look at the big picture, it's — this is what becomes clear to me that it's ("IT" "YOU KNOW" tonality difference suggests EVP) — your beliefs will determine the guides that manifest.  Now, like, now some people are saying 'Aliens are demons.'  That's not good.  So I've written articles about all these issues.

 

Coley: Why do you think we're (or "WE'RE" [EVP]) they're creating a negative portion of it?  They're pulling it in but —

 

me: Well — 

 

Coley: I don't see — like I — I get the —the unity of —

 

me: There's many — I — I — you know, there's many disinformation and misinformation campaigns.  So I guess ("MY" [EVP]) there's really no substitute for my articles because they're detailed and I specifically —

 

Coley: And when you just — just can I, so I can clarify for Chat that you're not talking about St. Michael, right?  This is the 'Michael' that [is] your spiritual guide 'Michael' that you think is —

 

me: Yes.  Yes.  [I am.]

 

Coley: Okay.

 

me: . . . Remember it's just a name — of people experiencing [what was a culturally traditional manifestation of] 'St. Michael.'  John Dee was one who experienced 'St. Michael.'

 

Coley: No, somebody was wondering in Chat and I just wanted them to know we weren't.  That's to clarify it.

 

me: The name is the chosen name to express Christ consciousness.  All — like the 'St. Michael' experiencers have now become Christ consciousness experiencers [such as authentic 'channelers'].  So — okay, for example, you know I've done many articles about 'Michael' synchronicity in my life.  There's also bell [the name 'Bell'] synchronicity in famous paranormal cases.  For example: 'The Inner Circle' [channeled by Mark Probert] — there is — there was a Michael Faraday was one of 'The Inner Circle' — What are they called? 'Control.'  'Controls.'  So if you look through all the famous paranormal cases, you'll see Michael synchronicity and Bell synchronicity.

 

Coley: That's why we asked you before if you thought that the Bell — that The Bell Witch was coming through as Michael since you said you were reincarnated as —

 

me: Well when I read the — when I read those quotes from the Bell Witch case: [paraphrasing] 'I am everything and anything I want to be.'  I mean that's — that's what the haunting presence said.  So, I mean, my articles are — I have written articles about that.  The solution to the poltergeist puzzle.

 

Coley: What would the solution be?

 

me: Well, in the Bell — in the Bell Witch case, [paraphrasing documented quotes] 'I'm that rabbit.'  You know, you — 'I'm your grandmother.'  There were all these things and nobody knew what — at any instant 'I' could 'be anyone and anything I want to be' at that moment.  So then when I went to  Centrahoma, she [Maxine] happened to mention a case when the entity 'Michael' was speaking on behalf of the dog — the pet dog, which was a direct correlation with all the other cases.  So you have to remem[ber] — I mean it's — I mean  people are puzzled because my — what I've learned is so different from the mainstream social consciousness where you watch movies and you listen to — to pop songs and you play computer games, you know, I mean it's tragic. And meanwhile, the people in the government do whatever the hell they want because you're busy amusing yourself. That's where we are now.  

 

Coley: Yeah, it — it definitely we're somewhere.  Where do you go from there?  What I — I guess we're coming up on two hours here. What would you like to leave the people with or where would you like them to go to maybe find out more about all of this?

 

me: metaphysical articles.org.  You have 820 articles to choose from.  You can — if you're interested, you can do a search for whatever —whatever subject you're interested in and begin — just look at the various — on the right there's a link to an index of — an index page of all the different subjects.  But, you know, so there's 820 articles about everything you can imagine of a paranormal nature. So go — you know, I'd say just go there and you'll find what you're looking for.

 

Coley: Yes.  So we got those.  They're all in the Chat and we should be good to go.  Yeah.  So before you leave, what would you like to leave the people with?

 

me: Well, let me see.  Okay, I'll read you something that one of my X [X.com] posts — an X post reply that I wrote. 

 

Some of the responses to my posts confirm my realization that people are so indoctrinated by mainstream media that they don't allow themselves to read in the entirety articles at this blog and consider or reflect about evidence when it is presented after being either ignored or suppressed for many decades.  For someone who thinks that himself or herself 'knows' something that in actuality is an erroneous conclusion, it seems that data being offered them presenting information conflicting with their ideology is only relevant for consideration if someone representing 'official' media—perhaps some television newscaster or government official—is enunciating what conclusions may be drawn.

  
me: I mean, don't even go to websites like Reddit because I posted five photos of materialized spirit people and they said, 'Oh, everyone knows that's a hoax.'  'Everyone knows that's phony.'  They don't know what they're talking about.  They're not phony.  I mean they're completely documented.  I have — I — I identify the books that the pictures ("OF" [EVP]) are published in whatever ("NO" [EVP])  [Note: This EVP indicates my statement wasn't literally correct because while many books report about 'Sir Henry De Morgan' materializations, the precise source book remains unknown by myself; two of the known source books are dated 1874 and 1920 while the two others are from books dated 2004 and 2012] — way back in the in the early 20th century or the 19th century and they just say, 'Oh no, those are — those are frauds.'  Well they're never going to learn.  So my — my blog is basically to help people learn.

 

article link: "Considering the Mentalities of Reddit Website Participants"

 

 

Coley: Yeah well that's — that's great.  We appreciate you coming on today and having — and yes and walking us through all this.  Hopefully, you'll find more people out there and you can make sense and find — yeah, that'd be great.  Miya, did you have anything before we left?

 

Miya: No.  Just thank you for coming and sharing your testimony.

 

me: Thank you.  I appreciate you.  I appreciate both of you for listening.

 

Coley: No problem.  Have a great night.  Yeah, Maya, we have a lot of — yeah, I saw that somebody from Chat was going to be in.  I have a huge — I can't even believe it — the schedule out well in advance.  So definitely check out shows coming up.  And in closing, is there anything that, Maya, you had — you wanted to share?

 

Miya: Just that the main one I've gotten lately has been that all the health and mental issues people are going through right now is because the body remembers what the soul has had to heal.  So, not to — not go look into doctors and see what's going on but look at what the spiritual and emotional aspect is if you're feeling unwell.  That's it.

 

Coley: Definitely.  Definitely.  Definitely!  Yes.  Yes.  Be good to yourselves.  Definitely.  Yeah.  Huh.  And on that note, Miya and I are — we will be back next Sunday — See, I don't even know what day it is.  I'm so used to Monday.  Next Sunday, we're going to be doing an 8:00 p.m. Central Standard Time show.  So, add in to that.  Definitely.  Thank you, Tim Moth Man.  If you guys have not, please hit that like, share, subscribe, and comment.  And Miya, tell them again where they can find you on YouTube and where — about your website.  Definitely.  You guys go check out Maya's website.  She's got a beautiful website that she made.  It's absolutely awesome. 

 

Miya: Yeah, you can find me on YouTube @miyastarfire and Facebook @miyastarfire and my website is miyastarfire.com.  It's all very simple.  So yeah.

 

Coley: Yeah.  And as — it — it is.  I wasn't sure if it let me put it in but I'll get it added.  If you guys want you can look.  It's on our main page too on YouTube and I'll get that added at other places too.  So, yes, got a lot of stuff coming up and a lot of stuff to do.  Hope everybody had a great weekend.  And on that note, we appreciate each and every one of you.  Thank you for taking the journey into the unknown.  I'm Coley, also known as Coley UFO and we have the beautiful and talented Maya Starfire.  Definitely go over and subscribe to her channel and show her some love also.  And it's been great to see every single one of you in Chat tonight and we'll be seeing you very soon.  Olly will be back tomorrow.  We have somebody from over on the X platform.  I'm in a group that's going to be on,  so — and Fridays too if you're interested, anybody in this group.  I'm trying to keep it open for as long as I can for each and every one of you who are on the SNX side over here on YouTube.  So, it's — be great to get to know everybody, put a face to the name and allow you to also get on here and share your experiences with the world.  So, on that note — oh, you're going to try some moonshine and beer.  I think I'm going to need some moonshine and a beer after tonight, too.  But anyway —

 

Miya: Might start drinking again . . .

 

Coley: Thanks . . . 

 

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[Update: This transcript of the second shortened version of the interview video was completed on July 30.]

 

Following the interview chronicled in this article, my life has continued in the familiar highly unusual way.  It was depressing to experience another podcast interview censorship incident and this seemed even more disturbing than usual when one considers some of the points that I made during the interview and especially — "I guess I'm supposed to share that [Message] with the world. God is asking, do you love me?  Your life on earth is a chance to show you love me [Me] through doing moral, goodly, godly things for others.  That's how you have a chance to prove your love to all that is. [All That Is]"
 
The preceding article presents some representative news headlines and X.com news posts that this blogger found online while preparing this blog article for publication.  Consistent readers of this blog know that X.com is less regulated than mainstream corporate news media yet persists in making topics available that in a regulated way exclude posts from being read by a large audience of X readers in relation to metaphysical / spiritual / paranormal topics, such as the posts of this blogger.  All Mark Russell Bell X posts may be read at https://x.com/MarkRussellBell.
 
On Thursday while driving to the supermarket, I noticed an otherwise pleasant black young man dressed like a thug and estimated that this is due to the mainstream media emphasizing violent altercations involving young people as clickbait to increase advertising revenue etc.  In this business-as-usual way, violence is being depicted as an ordinary and socially acceptable way of interacting publicly.  Spiritual traditions communicating the importance of self-control and realizing the karmic results of harming another person in any way seem no longer to be a matter of mainstream media instruction.  In the Christian tradition —
  

Matthew 25:40
"And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

 
In looking up this passage right now, Google AI provided an incorrect translation of this passage, as shown below.  (Click on this screenshot for a magnified view.)

 

After I arrived at the grocery store and began shopping, a man started yelling at the west side of the store.  His howling was reminiscent of demonic possession depictions in movies and I surmised that he was on drugs.  Eventually I noticed that it was a young well-dressed black man who was sitting on the floor with his back propped against a counter in the deli area as store clerks were speaking to him in a hushed yet demanding tone.  Moments later, he hurried over to me and hugged me as if I was his friend.  A store clerk told him to let go of me.  I usually try to be patient and helpful to people such as this, as they often seem to approach me.  I'm accustomed to informing them that they may call the 211 telephone number to learn about what social and housing services are available nearby.  However, I was in a bad mood because of this censorship situation and sternly told him to get off of me.  When I was at the check-out counter, I was instructed to leave to the east of the store as he was sitting outside the store at the other end.  Also I noticed a discolored dime at the far edge of the counter used for bagging that I think I've noticed before.  This time, I gave it the cashier just to make sure that I wouldn't wonder about it the next time I visit that particular aisle.  

Regarding my voice hearing experiences during this phase of my life that commenced on April 29, 2022 as I've written about my journal blog website that is only recommended for advanced readers of the Metaphysical Articles blog —  

These journal entries are intended to chronicle daily interactions with my personal 'guide/s in Oneness'/'Guardian Angel' as representing 'The God Force' ('Michael' or 'M') manifesting continuously around me in diverse and unlimited ways.  When I began writing journal entries in early 2021, I had no idea that this was going to provide a personal documentary account of the shocking emergence of the 'God Alter Ego' usually called 'The Devil.'  Each living organism is an individual aspect of 'M.' 

For example, while working on this article on Friday July 3, I jotted down as they occurred the following externalized voices hearing phenomena:

"LIKE YOU"     "YOU GOT IT"     "HOW AWFUL"     "HELP"     "WHAT HAPPENED"     "SHUT UP"     "IS HE KIDDING"     "RIGHT" (sarcastic)     "THAT'S FUNNY"     "WHY"     "NO"     "OH" (solar plexus)     "YEAH"     "I CAN'T WAIT" (hateful)    "BE CAREFUL"     "YOU'RE HAPPY" (elderly woman's pleased voice)     "CRAZY"     "I HATE YOU"     "BE QUIET"     "WHAT THE FUCK" (solar plexus)     "THEY HEARD YOU"     "I LOVE YOU" (muttering)
 
There was also instances of muttering (solar plexus) and tapping on my feet.  Last night, there was a tongue-biting incident when I was in the process of going to sleep.  This has happened previously when this evident Only One manifesting throughout all paranormal phenomena case chronologies is expressing dissatisfaction for some of my (tap) depressed or hopeless thoughts about the conditions of (tap) contemporary society.  I usually simply ignore the externalized yet must always notice the solar plexus utterances (tap) because of the histrionic emotions being conveyed.  As always, I'm aware that these bizarre experiences are due to my advanced understanding of metaphysical aspects of life (tap) as I continue serving as a surrogate / 'everyman' for other people as autobiographer-blogger.  In my journal blog I've noted how the externalized voices other than the (tap) solar (tap) plexus emanations sound to me as 'computerized' in that the same (tap) voice cadences repeat over and over again so this seems a tool of (tap) used by 'The Only One.'

As I quoted during the podcast interview: ". . . for each occasion an intelligence is selected best adapted to that occasion."  Also relevant are these pronouncements by 'Ramtha' through JZ Knight as quoted in a previous article: 

Considering the insights made possible through my study into the field of transcendental communication cases in recent decades, I've learned "the Soul records memory as feelings" and "everyone's opinion about any one thing will differ often vastly, for each has formulated that opinion based on his unique experiences and the understanding or misunderstanding that he has gained in his soul, not only from this life but from all lives lived before this one."  The spiritual 'journey' results with "recording on your pages of life, in your divine soul, the action/reaction that creates manifested matter, manifested destiny, manifested reality."  One will recognize that initiation has occurred upon perceptions of social consciousness altering while accepting that there is an omnipresent life force conducive to positive accomplishments and this consistent awareness affects one's decisions.  This Source of All Being is reflected in all blessings and creativity.

In addition to experiencing dreamstate experiences that I didn't take time to write down so that what took place could be recalled, a comparatively rare audible experience that occurred to me during the early morning hours of July 3rd while I was in bed was myself hearing the sound what seemed like an 'electronic blip' as some manner of technology might produce.  I estimated that this timely incident seemed to take place because I'm currently working on this article so this is a demonstration (tap) of what phenomena are possible to occur.  (tap tap)  If you've heard about unhinged people who've expressed the idea that (tap) government agents have implanted some device inside their head, one may estimate that hearing an 'electronic blip' such as the one heard by myself recently could've influenced this (tap) odd idea.  While typing this sentence just now came the solar plexus utterance "HELP ME" so I presume the Haunting Presence is encouraging everyone to help all that is which is simultaneously 'All That Is,' Whom has been described this way by 'Seth' through Jane Roberts: previously--
 

"You are cocreators. What you call God is the sum of all consciousness, and yet the whole is more than the sum of Its parts. God is more than the sum of all personalities, and yet all personalities are what He is.

"There is constant creation. There is within you a force that knew how to grow you from a fetus to a grown adult. This force is part of the innate knowledge within all consciousness, and it is a part of the God within you."  (article)

 

The sleep hours between July 3 and July 4 were comparatively quiet aside from a few "OH" solar plexus utterances along with external [tap] voices with these instances included in the list presented above; however, there were a few moments when the audible manifestations took the form of a meowing kitten.  (tap)  One blog article mentions 'sice' as an alternative word designating any small animal.  (article)  There was another unusual feeling that has occurred before occasionally — there was a moment when it felt as if there was a single needle prick (very gentle tap) on my lower right leg.  Or might this have been some manner of injection being administrated by doctoring entities?
 

The externalized voice phenomena that is audible to me sounds as if it is emanating from the left when I'm seated (tap) at my computer.  The fact that they sound 'computerized' (tap on my left heel, which is as unusual spot) reminds me about what Madame Helena Petrovna Blavatsky who reported about what she'd learned about the paranormal manifestation of so-called 'shells' in some of her writings.  The following is an example of how HPB perceived 'shells.'  

Outward expression may well belie the true inner calibre during life; but after death dissembling ceases. Immediately the governing Consciousness is gone; "astral body and principle of passion and desire leave the physical in company and coalesce. It is then that the term Kamarupa may be applied"; for "this joining of the two makes a shape or form which though ordinarily invisible is material and may be brought into visibility." Here lingers no desire assimilable to Spirit. The Ego takes all the good, leaving only the dregs of His late personal lifetime behind; thus the shell of a high motivated individual is not baleful and soon dissipates. However, being "empty of mind and conscience", the human reliquae becomes a potency for harm just to the extent that evil influences do linger in it. For the spook "has powers of its own that can be exercised whenever the conditions permit. These conditions are furnished by the medium of the spiritualists, and in every seance room the astral shells of deceased persons are present to delude the sitters, whose powers of discrimination have been destroyed by wonderment."  (article by HPB) 

 
As chronicled in Testament, some of my acquaintances happened to resemble famous people and my friend Fiona resembled extant photos of the young Madame Blavatsky.

 

My friend Fiona once posed with a sculpture of HPB during a visit to a 1998 lecture at the Philosophical Research Center.  The center photo is from Testament. 

 

Here's a link to another Mark Russell Bell podcast interview that is available at YouTube — 

 

 

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