An Interview with the 'Guardian Spirit of George Lucas'

Portions of what may be read in English language editions of Ryuho Okawa channeling session transcripts published in recent years indicate a new age that is quite different from what has been instructed about 'the Age of Aquarius' in earlier channeling case chronologies.  Declarations about "Hell" in Okawa's Spiritual Interview Series books are among the noticeable variations.  These circumstances also became apparent in the popular culture with one example featured in a 2020 blog post with Hell depicted in the trailer for the movie "Bill & Ted Face the Music."

 

 Hell is depicted in the movie; below is shown one of Ryuho Okawa's books

 

 

Also as mentioned before — Superconsciousness expressing through human creativity now manifests blatant 'mockery' or 'mocking' aspects during the current phase of Earth life.  This article presents transcript excerpts from Spiritual Interviews with the Guardian Spirit of George Lucas and the Spirit of Carrie Fisher (2021) by Ryuho Okawa.  (Previous blog articles about Ryuho Okawa are listed with links on the Channeling Cases Index Page; see also the concluding paragraphs of the May 17 article — this current article is the 36th post presenting subjects relating to and following what is reported in that article.)

The channeling session featuring the 'guardian spirit of George Lucas' took place on January 8, 2020 after Ryuho was told by 'the spirit of Carrie Fisher,' "Please check [with] George Lucas' guardian spirit."  The spirit of Carrie Fisher then mentioned, "He is almost the same grade spirit as Stan Lee, who left this world and came to this world, yeah.  Almost the same mission, I think so."  Earlier during the session the spirit of Carrie Fisher mentioned about Lucas's guardian spirit: "He is one of the quite impressive and some kind of, how do you say, the disguised portion of God.  I think so."  

 

This enigmatic statement became a subject for the new channeling session.  This blogger is reminded that 'channeled entities' representing the 'ascended realm' of life are manifesting as an aspect or 'unit' of the Spiritual Oneness/All That Is/The God Force.  Ryuho Okawa has also published transcripts of spiritual interviews with 'the guardian spirit of Stan Lee' (birth name: Stanley Martin Lieber), who conversed during several sessions in 2018 and provided ideas and advice for screenplay elements of the movie scheduled for being produced by Ryuho, "The Laws of the Universe — The Age of Elohim."   Or could this communicator have been stating a plethora of travesties.  Considering Ryuho's channeling session transcripts published in recent years including the space entities oeuvre, readers might keep in mind that literality of statements may be questionable as transcendental communication can be limited by the beliefs and convictions of those experiencing the contact; and travesty is a form of figurative language.  A 1979 transcript anthology book of Mark Probert channeling sessions includes the statement by a channeled entity: "When I put my experiences into words, I realize that each one of you exist in different environments, reared and conditioned to think in different ways.  So it may be that I will have to think of proper words that can be understood by you, using a simple kind of terminology that everyone can understand."

The spiritual interview with the guardian spirit of George Lucas was conducted in the Special Lecture Hall of the Happy Science organization in Japan.  Ryuho's eldest daughter Sayaka was one of the three interviewers.  (The other interviewers are identified as 'B' and 'C.')  After being summoned, the communicating Intelligence speaks through Ryuho, who remains conscious while channeling.  Another contemporary channeler who doesn't go into a deep trance state while channeling is Paul Selig.  (1, 2, 3)

 
 

Guardian Spirit of George Lucas Interview Excerpts

G.S: He [George Lucas] is still alive, so I am a representative of him.  A little different.  But I can almost understand what he is thinking, and of course, I have been giving him a lot of inspiration, so yeah, I can answer you.

 
B: My first question to you is, "What is the message you want to convey to the people of the world through your 'Star Wars' series films?"

G.S.: My main concept is, "What is the real power of God?"  It's concentrated on the term, "Force."  This is the pursuit of the concept of God's force, God's power, and in the end, what is God and what is anti-God, what is light and what is darkness. 

 

Of course, it's reflected a lot of journalistic modern society, for example, you saw the "Episode IX," the latest one, main figure is a young lady.  It's just the reflection of the modern society, modern America, and the black person and the Asian lady, like that.  But yeah, hmm, it'll be accepted by American Hollywood world, yeah, it's really, indeed, Hollywood-like world.

 

But at the beginning, it was quite different.  I was not sure at that time, and no one could follow me.  But in the end, it's made a great success, and I became very famous.  So, this is another expression of what is God and what is devil.  Yeah.

 

B. Thank you.  As you just said about the real power of God, the real power from God, could you tell us more about the power of God, which is the Force in your "Star Wars" series?

 

G.S.:  At the beginning, the Force, just the physical force I described, but now, "Episode IX," the last one, it's included, for example, the healing power and the teleportation and the distance telepathy conversation.  I added these additional powers.  All are powers from God and it's told that the people who were sent by God and did great things in history have such kinds of super powers.

 

So, in my meaning, I cannot imagine, for example, the Super Man-like, not-human power, but the hero should be a human but human with the power of divine within.  That's the main point.  So, "If you awaken to such kind of power, inner power," I presented to the people, especially for younger people or children that "you can be the next Jedi."  It is my hope and the present to the next generation.

 

 

SAYAKA OKAWA: Do you know about the dark-side and the light-side well?

 

G.S.: It's a little difficult even for me.  If I can tell the truth about that, I might be the Almighty God of the universe, so it's beyond my capacity.  I know a little, just the inspiration regarding movies to make films and had such kind of story. . . .

 

 

Ah,  it's regarding greed.  People are apt to have greed and if that greed is concentrating on conquering other people or other country or planet, it sometimes becomes a gigantic evil, I think so.  It's apt to do so.

 

But to protect yourself from this kind of greed, please know yourself, inner-self.  Within you, there is harmony.  I mean, this harmony comes from God.  God's harmony can restore the balance of the universe.  If evil-side, dark-side power becomes gigantic, you can make new balance to make yourself calm.  You said calm.  Yeah.  And think good things only and get rid of the conquering desire for other people or other planets or other countries, and make harmony.  Make the wavelength of your mind in tune with God's harmony.  It's a harmony from pleasure, harmony from comfortableness, and harmony from happiness of the people.

 

So, the main concept of the war becomes "the gigantic empire's greed or endless desire" versus "conscience of the people," for example, Resistance people.  God is a huge existence, but also, God is within each of you.  So, if you can find the inner God within you, that God will reach other Gods of the other people, the web-like light circle will appear in the universe, and its light of web will wrap the dark power.  So, this is the winning moment of God, I think so.

 

 

INTERVIEWER B: Last night, the spirit of Ms. Carrie Fisher said, "George Lucas is quite impressive, a disguised God."  I suppose you are a part of savior because Stan Lee, your friend, is a part of Zeus, according to Happy Science readings.

 

G.S.: Ah, really.

 

INTERVIEWER B: And I suppose you are a part of savior.  Could you . . .

 

G.S.: Ah, no, no, no.

 

INTERVIEWER B: If possible, could you please . . .

G.S.: Savior means "saving money"?

 

INTERVIEWER B:  [Laughs]  No, not saving.

 

G.S.: Yeah, yeah, in some meaning, it's true.  I experienced a lot of difficulties in saving money.  To be a savior is good, yeah, indeed.

 

INTERVIEWER B: In other words, I suppose you are a great angel or a great Jedi Master.

G.S.: It's an imagination.  It's just my imagination.  I'm old enough, 75 years old, so my passion and my strength have been weakened.  This is . . . yeah, oh, I'm making another movie, "Indiana Jones 5," so my last day will be coming. . . .

 

. . . So, the strong warriors are my desire or the shadows of my desire.  In reality, I'm not so strong a person like the Jedi.  But the people of the world helped me a lot, so I was known by them.  I might be just the "pre-advice" of the coming of the Great Savior of the next age.  Yeah, I think so.

 

 

SAYAKA OKAWA: We are making the new universal movie.

 

G.S.: Ah, you are writing a synopsis.

 

SAYAKA OKAWA: Yes.  We are making "The Laws of the Universe II" . . . and we are now planning to make "III."  So, could you give us some advice to make good movies?

 

G.S.: Ah, you have the tendency of not wanting to kill people or battle scenes.  In the United States, especially Hollywood, people want to watch scenes of mass murder, so the direction or the appreciation points are quite different.  If you don't like killing millions of people, you can just describe the mentality of the inner soul.

 

But we, American people, easily want to make a war and kill tens of thousands people easily, but in reality, it's not suitable for modern Japanese people.  So, if you want to get an American welcome, you must kill a lot of people.  But if you don't like such kind of taste, please disregard them, and you should go your own way.

In my most recent journal blog post, I mentioned — . . . the anti-Russia and pro-war perspective that is noticeably uniformly rampant throughout mainstream news websites.  [Putin isn't the only person living there, after all.]  It seems as if all of our American leaders [and journalists] have seen too many James Bond movies and are imitating orientations depicted in them.  Apparently throughout the earlier decades of my life the warnings of totalitarianism achieved nothing in relation to our present society because this awareness isn't an aspect of contemporary people's experiences.  A corporate and government hierarchies-controlled mainstream news media is totalitarian.  

 

In another September 2022 journal blog post I wrote — When contemporary world leaders plainly state ultimatums to one another, only those with mentalities indoctrinated by passive 'military' / 'social programming' would fail to engage in diplomatic ways of resolving problems.  All leaders are motivated by the need to achieve an equitable life experience for the people of their nations.

Considering the many billions of dollars used for military aid to Ukraine, the money would have been better used in support of America's homeless and disenfranchised along with finding ways to help improve the lives of people internationally, in particular Russia to evade nuclear war that will destroy the environment of our planet.  Proxy war is also war against man and God.  A recent Quora comment of mine is shared below.

  

 

Update: A list of articles about the Ryuho Okawa channeling case chronology is available as part of the first Index article shown below.